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50 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:
Maybe Green Bay is better than we think and that loss wasn’t crazy. What if a team with a qb decides they want to dangle their qb and picks to draft a new one?
Their offense is good. Their defense was trash all year.
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Absolutely absurd that fans booed Krause tonight. That stuff happened 25 years ago and he’s passed away. Embarrassing
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6 minutes ago, chw42 said:
You did. The line being 31st in pressures being squarely their fault was very surprising. No surprise that Patrick is the worst lineman, but I was expecting him to be much lower than 15th.
These numbers may not match up to the eyetest 100%, but I think they take away a lot of the bias that's thrown out there by fans and the media.
There's another chart I did not post that charted TTT under 2.5 seconds and over 2.5 seconds. The Bears had the 3rd least amount of drop backs where the TTT was under 2.5 seconds. And were first in drop back % with a TTT of over 2.5 seconds. On those drop backs, his TTT was the third worst in the league at 4.09 seconds. The line gave him time to throw on those.
Here's the whole thread in case anyone is interested. There's a lot of good stuff in here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/s/k05If73bUk
That matches my eye test that a huge amount of the pressures and sacks are on Fields. There is a reason the sack rate drops dramatically when he has been hurt and a backup has played. And the phenomenon was the same when he was at OSU. Before his years as the starter OSU was among the best in the country at preventing sacks and it was the same after when Stroud was there. Yet when Fields was the QB they allowed a ton of sacks. OSU didn't suddenly have much worse offensive lines during that period either (their starting OL from 2020 included a 2nd round pick, 2 3rd round picks, and then their other tackle was also drafted into the NFL and 2019 you had 3 of those same starters plus a 3rd round pick).
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8 minutes ago, fathom said:
They keep acquiring cheap guys with no upside at all and no potential trade value.
Would 100% be better off just rotating through AAAA guys and seeing if something sticks then signing Tim Hill. He's awful.
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11 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:
No, and if FSU's QB hadn't gotten hurt we still wouldn't, but without him FSU is clearly not one of the four best teams. Michigan is going to be #1 and if you ask them who they'd rather play they'd 100% pick FSU over Alabama.
Yep. Really sucks for FSU but they are basically Iowa without their QB. Hopefully the committee doesn’t repeat its mistake from last year of leaving Bama out (im assuming Michigan, Texas and Washington are all in) for a clearly inferior team.
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12 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said:
Bulls for the 2nd game complaining to the other team about running up the score. So pathetic.
Like all things Reinsdorf touches just an absolute loser group or players and franchise.
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Just an awful win. And I cannot believe Flores brought zero pressure on the last drive when the Bears did nothing against the blitz the entire night
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1 hour ago, Boopa1219 said:
I’d rather see Julian Phillips out there for the Bulls than Patrick Williams. I’m curious if the Bulls will package Williams with Lavine to sweeten their return
Williams is terrible. Why would that sweeten a return?
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5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:
I would have thought that Soroka had more control and looking at his career stats you would think so but he missed 2 full years and is a free agent after the 2024 season.
Yep. Hope he rebounds in his second year back from missing so much time and flip him. Don’t see any actual upside to the rest of the pieces (well the one A ball guy is a lotto ticket, maybe something there down the road).
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3 hours ago, bmags said:
I’m surprised how positive people are on this trade. This is a bunch of trash with limited upside. I like the single A guy I guess.
Reminds me of acquiring 4 Ryan cordells
I’m guessing it’s because Shuster and Shewmake were relatively recent first round picks. But Shewmake is 26 already and can’t hit and Shuster is a AAAA arm. The real hope to get value out of this is having Soroka revert to 2019 form and then flip him.
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This trade is basically a bet on Soroka becoming solid again. Lopez is just a gap filler till Montgomery is ready, Shewmake can’t hit, and Shuster isn’t good and has very limited upside if any.
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1 hour ago, ThirdGen said:
As much as I feel sorry for A's fans, maybe its time for Oakland to accept that it is not a major league sports town and try to develop a thriving minor league sports scene. Build a nice 10,000 seat ballpark and try to get a AAA or AA team.
I see a lot of people complaining about MLB on this, but the reality is Oakland has had teams in all four major sports and couldn't make it work for any. Its not just baseball and the A's have been talking about moving from there for 40 years.
Yeah, I’m never siding with super rich owners (especially ones like Mark David and Fisher whose only achievements in life were born into billionaire families) extorting cities for $100s of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds.
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15 minutes ago, bmags said:
I don't think Cleveland is. Shows how good that defense and team were that they are getting a QB barely better than PJ Walker and winning like this.
Houston, I hope, causes people to rethink a couple of QB-drafting-heuristics that are clearly helpful:
- "X school or X system never produces good QBs". That train of thought led, in my mind, to the biggest NFL draft day blunder with Aaron Rodgers falling as the league grew tired of Tedford-system QBs. Obviously, Stroud went 3 overall, so not as big of an nfl issue here but fans clearly bought into the Ohio State as a sign of nfl failure.
- You'd think Stroud's success starting right away and Jordan Love's struggles and Trey Lance's failure will help wash away the "sitting QBs and putting them in the right situation cures all".
I think Stroud is probably my favorite example yet of the fact that NFL scouts are pretty good at telling who should be a first round QB, but terrible at ranking them within that round, and have no idea who will actually succeed in that bunch.
Because of that we all create a bunch of rules like "oh if they had a team that developed them" or "if they sat" or "if they played" or "if they were in the right situation" and I think Stroud just kinda washes that away with if you can pair physical traits with the unknown it-factor of "able to diagnose defenses at high speed and make strong decisions" it just makes nothing else really matter.
I also think the elevation of college QBs who can play off-script may be overrated right now. When Stroud needed to, he had the tools to play off script. But maybe elevating Caleb Williams ability to play off script when he could probably easily make a play out of the regular script is just not going to be as helpful.
After all I thought Zach Wilson would be an incredible improvisational QB. But turned out he just can't figure out how quickly he's in trouble in NFL speed, and Stroud can.
You have a big arm, are big strong fast and led an elite college offense or were the entire offense? Ok, first round pick and just know it's a lotto ticket.
The benefit to having a team "ready for a qb" is merely that they get FULL advantage of that contract. Otherwise you just get a really good QB and have to figure it out fast.
Totally agree and it has become really clear that it is just incredibly hard to tell in the modern era which QBs are going to really make it in the NFL. It is just such a massive jump from college to the NFL with the level of defense played and it is such a difficult position to play..
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1 minute ago, Southwest Sider said:
JR: Laughs at the idea of signing Ohtani.
Cubs: Were going to be serious players for Ohtani.
Why are YOU a White Sox fan still?
There is zero reason to give money to the White Sox or Bulls while Jerry Reinsdorf remains in charge. Just absolutely terrible franchises. If Reinsdorf doesn't inherit the greatest basketball player of all time his franchises would have one title in almost 80 combined years of ownership.
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19 minutes ago, fathom said:
I think Tony said it earlier, but is this news really going to impact TV ratings anyways? No one watched the team last year, and the next two years will likely be worse.
Probably not but for people that do tune in they now are almost certainly going to get the pleasure of a terrible broadcast team.
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1 minute ago, Rowand44 said:
I'll never understand people that didn't like Jason. He's the best around. Wasn't going to watch many games this year anyways so whatever but this doesn't help.
He’s great and there’s a reason he’s gotten so many big opportunities. I’m sure the replacement will be worse and they probably replace Stone with Beckham so a garbage team will also have terrible broadcast team.
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20 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
Stroud isn't throwing behind some world beating oline.
Yep, he is lighting it up without a great o-line, a terrible running game and Nico Collins who looked like an average at best WR in his first years as his #1 guy and a 3rd round rookie as his #2 WR. People need to just be honest with themselves that Fields is a great athlete that can at times make plays but just hasn't shown any ability to process and make reads or make the throws you need to on a consistent basis to be a good NFL QB.
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Just now, Buehrle>Wood said:
He was in the Royals org in that sweet spot of the 2014 era.
When you can duplicate 10 years of sucking for 2 good teams that only really won in the playoffs because of an all time great bullpen (which is mostly luck) you have to try to do that.
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13 hours ago, chw42 said:
He wasn't actually good until 2019. He was pretty mediocre for the A's until Ron Washington taught him how to defense. Then he learned that elevating and pulling the ball = homers and he's been pretty good ever since.
He was a really good player from 2016-2018 as well (3.5+ WAR pace ever year during that stretch) but he became a legitimate star in 2019.
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7 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said:
Last year of his contract? Are the Bears serious contenders to re-sign him? What do they have to gain by trading for him this season? We’re not in contention and you could have just signed him in the offseason.
If he isn't extended Poles should be fired immediately. My concern with this move is that while Sweat is a solid player, I don't think he is special and I'm guessing he is going to get a really really big money extension.
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It is honestly pointless following the Bulls and Sox until Reindsorf dies or sells unless they just flat out luck into an MVP caliber player like they did with Rose. And even then I wouldn't be confident they could built a championship team around that player. I've saved so much money and been happier since I stopped giving Reinsdorf any money for tickets. I just watch teams and players that I find fun to watch. Maybe someday I'll be able to follow the Bulls closely again.
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15 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:
This sentiment is idiotic. Baseball is a random generator sport. Unlike the other major sports...maybe hockey is similar, the playoffs are an absolute crapshoot. The goal of any organization should be to make it there. Once there, all bets are off.
Plaschke has always been an absolute moron so not surprising. And the Dodgers during their run have won a World Series, made two others and made the NLCS 5 times. Beyond hilarious to say they weren't built for the playoffs for several years when they won the World Series in 2020 and made the NLCS in 2021 and in 2021 Kershaw was hurt and then Roberts royally messed up their rotation by overusing Urias and Scherzer out of the pen. But a team with Scherzer, Buehler and Urias in the rotation is clearly set up to win in the playoffs.
Plus look at the Braves, they win the World Series two years ago and now they are on the verge of losing in the NLDS the two subsequent years despite having much better teams in both of those years. I think the playoff setup for baseball is also really really dumb since expanding beyond four teams. Two years ago a 106 win Dodgers team had to play a Wild Card game and then play the 107 win Giants just to make the NLCS (which messed up their pitching bad as discussed above).
They haven't had the postseason success they should have had for their talent level but s%*# happens sometimes in baseball. And their team this year looks way different if their pitching staff wasn't completely ravaged by injuries plus Urias being a piece of garbage. Not many teams are going to have a ton of pitching left when you lose Gonsolin, May, Buehler and Urias. I mean that is a couple top of the rotation type guys and solid depth.
I assume they are going to go hard after Ohtani this offseason and also try to sign a starting pitcher and if they do they will 100+ again next year and be formidable in the postseason if their pitching is healthy.
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This has been as boring of a postseason as I can remember and I’m surprised the Dodgers didn’t just try their young guys like Pepiot or Sheehan over Lynn.
Dodgers without Buehler, May, Urias and Gonsolin just didn’t have enough pitching left.
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Absolutely insane that Snitker let Elder face Harper. He has been bad for a while now and looked bad that inning.
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Orioles Acquire Corbin Burnes for Ortiz/Hall/34th Pick
in Pale Hose Talk
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They also have pick 32 this year because of Henderson winning rookie of the year so they have 2 of the top 32 picks even with this move.