Dominikk85
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The level is probably a bit easy for a college bat that advanced and they could have started him in high A but nothing wrong with gaining a bit of confidence by destroying that level. But good they didn't start him in rookie ball that would have been too much. There Really is no rush for him, he will probably reach AA by the end of the year anyway or they so it like the cubs with schwarber who played out the first year in A+ and then started the second year in AA. I could see him destroying A and AA similar to schwarber
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Also probably prospect fatigue. Was hyped as the best prospect in baseball for like 2-3 years so people were a little annoyed and then when he was mediocre for 2 years in the majors he was declared a bust. Will take sime time to rebuild his stock.
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The Acceptance Phase of James Shields and Tatis Jr.
Dominikk85 replied to hi8is's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Every team has such a move. The "smartest team in baseball" astros released JD Martinez. The cubs traded josh Donaldson. -
Most owners hate paying non baseball personnel. Except for the GMs the pay for analysts and coaches is pretty bad. Thus they will probably prefer one of boddy's assistant coaches to get 80% of the performance for 20% of the cost. I think that is pretty stupid, player dev can generate so much money so that it is worth spending on it. Most owners don't see it that way because player dev doesn't show results until 3-4 years later and even then it is not certain.
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Kyle boddy also posted he would like to be a pitching coordinator. He has a whole lot of demands though like he needs to have 100% of what is going on, limited travel days and ability to continue to be driveline CEO. Many GMs probably wouldn't like being dictated that much.
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He just needs to grow into like 40 grade power (say 13 homers and a 140 iso).
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Absolutely. Madrigal has a classic out of sequence swing that starts with pushing the hands forward. Also a too flat swing plane. This stuff can be fixed, I'm currently working with a HS player on the same issue but you need to fully commit to that change and accept that you might get worse for a couple months. This is not an easy thing to do though especially if you had as much success in the amateurs as madrigal had. Bregman did such a change with the astros but not everyone is willing to do it and there is also some risk that a swing change doesn't work. Don't forget that he has taken 10000s of swings with his old swing, to overcome that muscle memory it takes months of work with total conviction.
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No.if he doesn't sign you lose that slot money from your pool and the slot money is added to next years pool (as long you offered a certain minimum percentage of slot value to the player).
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Then the sox wouldn't sign him and get that pick again next year.
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Vaughn definitely will sign, the question is just for how much. Maybe the HS guys wait for vaughn to sign to see how much they can get.
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That is pretty normal if you graduate like 5 or 6 top 100 prospects in the last 3 years. Kopech, giolito, lopez, moncada, eloy all graduated so having like 5 top 100 left is pretty decent. Also Rutherford, hansen, dunning and fullmer have been ranked top100 by some publications but it didn't work out. The cubs systems wasn't great either after their guys all graduated. You have to look at prospects plus young mlb guys, nobody graduates tons of guys and remains a top system, farms are cyclical. The big issue w the sox is not lack of prospect depth but the rate of injuries and underperformance, their young guys simply didn't hit immediately like the Braves or cubs kids. Fortunately gio and moncada seem to have turned the corner, sometimes it takes time.
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Fangraphs board update (with 2019 draft guys)
Dominikk85 replied to Dominikk85's topic in FutureSox Board
Fangraphs hasn't updated player grades, they just added the draftees. I'm pretty sure they will bump robert up in the midseason ranking especially if he can stay healthy. -
Vaughn now ranked 46th in the top 100, third behind Robert and madrigal in the sox system. Other draftees: Rutschman 9 Witt 38 Bleday 45 Abrams 62 Greene 85 Pretty unusual that only 6 draft guys make the top 10 right away usually it is at least 8-9. Others will make it based on performance but so far it looks like a pretty weak draft. This year only had 7 50s at fangraphs last year it was more than 10.
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The biggest factor is how much power the nerds get. Many teams have sabermetrics guys but then the final say has a non stat guy using his gut feel. Similarly a team might have a "data hitting coach" but then have traditional hitting coaches who just ignore him and teach what they think is right. The great strength of luhnow is that he creates power for those guys, if an old school coach postures like "i have 30 years experience in pro ball, we do it my way" he gets fired while in other teams following the saber guys is more optional than mandatory.
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The riskiest guy from the top 10 rounds is probably dalquist. Some late rounders probably won't sign but dalquist is the riskiest of the relevant guys unless they really lowball Thompson.
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Sox currently have the 9th worst run diff so maybe they could get another top10 pick with some luck. Teams like Baltimore, KC, Detroit, Miami are way to bad to catch them but about 6-12 are pretty open.
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At least the sox got two progressive hitting guys with lisle and johanson. Not sure how it is with pitching though.
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Weil they have already quite some depth and took a quite "safe" guy with Vaughn so maybe gambling on some upside isn't the worst think
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It also means some mid tier free agents don't get contracts because of the draft pick. Kimbrel likely would have signed a month ago without the draft pick.
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I agree you need stuff guys in these days. A lot of them will not throw enough strikes to start but those pitchabilty guys who "keep it on the ground and don't walk guys" but don't have great stuff don't work anymore against the high powered launch angle guys. The twins did the same mistake during most of the 2010s (get pitch to contact guys) and it didn't work and now with their new front office they switched to high spin high heat guys who give up a few more homers but also get more Ks and pop ups. I also read the cubs made the same mistake going for high floor strike throwers and it didn't work (they probably were trying to find the next kyle hendricks but this works rarely) and now also go the stuff route. The time of pitch to contact sinkerballers is mostly over even though there are still some guys who make it work.
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Vaughn of course was a pretty conservative pick but I feel after him they went a lot more risk. No more "college high performer" with high floor low ceiling. 2. Mathew Thompson HS pitcher 3. Andrew dahlquist HS pitcher 4.James beard HS centerfielder 5 to 7 then are college pitchers I like what they did 2 to 5. No more "can't play a position but walked a ton in college" guys but HS guys who have high bust potential but also upside. The sox at this point don't need minor league depth but can gamble a bit on getting another star. Also like they went pitching heavy. Pitching was once the strength of the system but injuries have cut into that a lot and the last 2 years actually hitters have been the star of the system at least after kopech got hurt. They couldn't pick a pitcher at 3 this year because no one had enough talent to be picked there (no Mize this year) but after that they really went on pitching after going very heavy on hitters the last years (kinda like the cubs 2012-16) because they system needed some refill after all the injuries.
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FS: Andrew Vaughn goes to White Sox at pick No. 3
Dominikk85 replied to Rankin's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Abreu is like 33 next year so I wouldn't give him more than 3 years anyway. Nothing wrong with a two year deal though, 2020 vaughn spends in the minors, then he gets super 2ed until late may and the rest of 2021 Abreu DHs or is traded at the deadline. -
Great. As I said before the only guys I care about this year in the majors are giolito, moncada, eloy anderson and lopez. The sox need at least 4 (better all of them) of them to succeed and except for lopez and eloy they are all having good years. Not worried about eloy but a little about reylo. Most other Sox guys are placeholders for the minor leaguers but those 5 are needed for the next core as the farm is not deep enough to fill the complete 25 man roster. The sox need 3 really good starters and 6 or 7 good hitters to compete and then 6-7 more "solid" guys (relievers, hitting depth, sp depth) for depth and those 5 plus the minor leaguers should he able to fill that gap.
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FS: Andrew Vaughn goes to White Sox at pick No. 3
Dominikk85 replied to Rankin's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I like the pick. If Vaughn is as good as advertised he should be able to continue the white sox tradition of good 1B men. Since 1999 the sox only had a bad 1b man in 2 years: 2003 when konerko had a suck year and 2013 when konerko was done. Otherwise 1999-2012: konerko 285/361/504 123 ops+ (was a really offensive era), 30 hr, 93 rbi on average 2014-19: abreu 291/349/515 136 ops+,32 hr, 107 rbi on average If vaughn can continue that he definitely was worth the 3 pick. Vaughn could very well be able to do that. Fangraphs has him at 60/60 hit power which means about a 280 average, 25 hr and a 120 ops+ but I have also seen 70/65 which would mean 290 with 30 homers and a 135 ops+ which basically is exactly abreu. Considering that abreu is much more expensive and might decline it probably doesn't make sense to extend him, however since vaughn likely will need until mid to late 2020 to be ready giving abreu a 1 year deal if he takes it might make sense, maybe a two year deal if you want to service time vaughn into 2021. -
The fangraphs board has him 86 and mlb.com at 69 (nice) so it seems like he is slightly worse than draft position. Ot course internal assesments might vary from the prospect guys but at least he probably is not an overslot talent. Maybe they can get an overslot talent at 3 or 4 round but I would have hoped they could have moved a 25-35th talent to 45. But with arizona having 100 picks that was probably not really possible.
