I saw a few people bash on E-Lo and go unchallenged so Im curious if thats the common view. I think Loaiza did betray us and let us down. He had two chances to put away our rival and he failed both times, and then he failed again in a last ditch game against KC. He pitched great for us but when we truly needed him to be great, he couldnt do it. Personally, Im not overly fond of mediocre pitchers who come here and pitch like hell until we really need em where they go back to their old form. You guys have seen all year that Ive never been really fond of Loaiza, I always saw him as a bit of a fluke. Im not sure I want to see him back here next year either. Thoughts on this subject are appreciated...

I think the idea of this thread is idiotic....

Bennidict Arnold for having 3 straight bad starts? You don't think that is an overdramatization or anything do you? Try a guy with the highest workload of his career who just wore out.

Benedict was a great and daring general but he felt his duty was unappreciated so he betrayed them. Loaiza didnt necessarily betray us but he let us down. He pitched great but in the end he failed us. If hes tired, it doesnt matter. His stupid ass shoulda said something. And if hes gonna blow down the stretch every year, I really dont want him back...

Roman...

 

This post reeks of someone that hasn't been in this world long enough to understand the limits that life puts on people. This guy exploded past his career bests in every category and he led the team in innings pitched...he simply ran out of gas!

 

That makes him tired, not a bad guy.

 

Tell someone he's tired? What would they do? Let Frank pitch in his spot? We don't have any other starters to give him a rest! If he said he was tired [he did, by the way, say he was tired, before he hit this wall] and didn't want to make a start, then people would fire on him heavily for missing a start down the stretch...

 

He's the one guy that I'll allow may be tired...

 

Forkit!

Neither.

 

I see Loaiza as a guy who did WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than was EVER expected of him, but is petering out at the end.

He is not a choker or a traitor in my eyes.

He had a great season with a lousy ending.

At least HE did not wait until late May to start winning ballgames.

As far as pitchers are concerned, he is the ONLY reason the Sox could have possibly climbed back into contention in the first place.

 

He is neither an Ace nor a Traitor, but he is MUCH closer to an Ace.

For the record, Loaiza's last start was very winnable. No offense once again killed his chances, not poor pitching.

I think the idea of this thread is idiotic....

19 wins. 'nuff said.

19 wins. 'nuff said.

The dudes a tool. I think he posts this s*** just to get a rise out of the majority of posters.

The dudes a tool. I think he posts this s*** just to get a rise out of the majority of posters.

I second that remark!!!!!!!!!!! :finger

In the game against the Twins a division winning effort on a fly ball to the gap in right by Ordonez is caught and game is tied at 1 instead in falls and a sacrifice fly later it is 4-1.

I think the idea of this thread is idiotic....

I second that.. Betrayed us?? HUH!!! He won 19 games.... Sheesh cut the guy some slack. Man!!!

 

So what did Buherle do than???? he did start 2-10

So what did Buherle do than???? he did start 2-10  

Don't get Roman started on MB

Don't get Roman started on MB 

Don't get Roman started

Can we all just agree to let this thread die? It is one of the dumbest threads I have seen on here and there is no reason to give it any more attention? All agreed?

Can we all just agree to let this thread die?  It is one of the dumbest threads I have seen on here and there is no reason to give it any more attention?  All agreed? 

Give it the Axe!!!

We need a "This Thread Sucks" icon

Here's some.

 

I like this one

Two other people agree with me. I dont want to see Loaiza back here next year. He implodes under pressure...

Two other people agree with me. I dont want to see Loaiza back here next year. He implodes under pressure...

Loz did implode when needed the most, unlike The Big Skirt Frank Thomas and Maggs, boy they were the king of clutch hits in Minnesota!!!

I dont give a s*** about Maggs imploding. Im no fan of his and I never said he didnt implode. Frank imploded too but hes a legend and he deserves respect. None of this "Big Skirt" nonsense. The man has 41 bombs and 100 RBIs. What else do ya want?

I dont give a s*** about Maggs imploding. Im no fan of his and I never said he didnt implode. Frank imploded too but hes a legend and he deserves respect. None of this "Big Skirt" nonsense. The man has 41 bombs and 100 RBIs. What else do ya want?

Do you have any idea how hypocritical you just sounded. You have flamed Loaiza for three bad performances when he had a great year. Then you try to defend Frank by throwing out his HR and RBI totals which are great and very good respectively but nothing all that special when you look at his BA.

Who cares about his low average? That doesnt matter. He produced runs...