Rauner had to chance to show his Republican prowess and failed miserably.  He tried to come in and swing his junk around and got b**** slapped backed to Bangkok.

The headline story will be the Senate and FL/GA for the GOP.

The even bigger story for DEMS is the rejection of Trumpism across the Midwest and Rust Belt.

Those 77,000 votes in 2016 are quickly evaporating.  PA is a massacre, Wisconsin might be one as well (Ryan will keep his seat intact because the Dems ran someone with too much baggage against his successor)...Michigan and Iowa are coming back home into the Democratic column after flirting with Trump and rejecting Clinton (equal doses of both).  Ohio is going to be another huge battleground, looks to be going GOP again for governor, following up Kasich's more moderating tone.

Trump had a great opening these last two years to move towards the middle and wipe out liberalism...and that chance is now blown.  With a strong economy, if he had fixed the Obamacare loophole/donut and balanced the tax cut more evenly between the rich/corporations and middle class...and not started an unnecessary trade war with China (the tariffs were a bad strategy, all he needed to do was build a coalition with Europe and Japan/South Korea/India and they could have extracted even bigger concessions than what we'll receive eventually).

 

You would never know (from the following map) that America has never been more divided...at least since the 1960's/Watergate or the Civil War.

Edited November 7, 20187 yr by caulfield12

They can try and spin it however they like, but losing the House is a really really bad case scenario for Trump.

Overall results tracking predictions, some surprises here and there though. Shocked with Florida gov, even more shocked with Kansas wtf

Casten, Underwood winning in Illinois, surprise in IL-13 too.

I was in a bad place when 538's house chances dropped to 35% around 8pm for a little bit.

We're seeing the big difference in how our government is structured. Haven't had a house-Senate divergence since 1984.

3 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:

They can try and spin it however they like, but losing the House is a really really bad case scenario for Trump.

Dems already saying they're requesting the tax returns

 

Things are gonna be wild for the next couple of years. 

My gut tells me that unless we get a recession within two years, Trump will win another four.

2 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

Dems already saying they're requesting the tax returns

 

Things are gonna be wild for the next couple of years. 

My gut tells me that unless we get a recession within two years, Trump will win another four.

How is Trump going to win without the rust belt states he won in 2016?  If they send Hillary out there, yes that's another four.  A decent candidate will destroy him.

Also congrats @The Beast for helping with Casten, @Reddy your race looks solid too

3 minutes ago, pettie4sox said:

How is Trump going to win without the rust belt states he won in 2016?  If they send Hillary out there, yes that's another four.  A decent candidate will destroy him.

It's her turn

4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

It's her turn

She needs to stay far away.  I blame her for Trump.

Edited November 7, 20187 yr by pettie4sox

50 minutes ago, pettie4sox said:

Well maybe Rauner shouldn't have sucked as a governor?

 

EDIT: Rated R to rated PG

Agreed that hurt him,  but even if he was "good " at his job,  he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. 

4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

It's her turn

Is that a serious thought?

Would the people actually vote for her in a primary again?

Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. 

Conduct some real Russia investigations instead.

1 minute ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Agreed that hurt him,  but even if he was "good " at his job,  he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. 

Dude, if he was a good governor or had a plan, he could have beat JB.  JB was a loser but Rauner was a bigger loser.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. 

Conduct some real Russia investigations instead.

Tax returns could find the Russians though ?

2 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Agreed that hurt him,  but even if he was "good " at his job,  he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. 

Rauner was really bad. But what also hurt him is how disliked Trump is in the Chicago area. Rauner was a dead man walking to send a point. 

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. 

Conduct some real Russia investigations instead.

Yeah agreed on tax returns. But I think some fun could be had looking into Trump Hotel in DC and some other areas where maybe Trump has been making soft money.

Just now, Soxbadger said:

Rauner was really bad. But what also hurt him is how disliked Trump is in the Chicago area. Rauner was a dead man walking to send a point. 

Trump was always talking shit about Chicago too.  Rauner should have told him to kiss his ass.

6 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Is that a serious thought?

Would the people actually vote for her in a primary again?

I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020

1 minute ago, StrangeSox said:

I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020

It's depressing thinking about her running again and ruining America.

Democrats will end up with several million more votes for Senate seats tonight but still lose 3 seats.

 

 

Edited November 7, 20187 yr by StrangeSox

44 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

Also congrats @The Beast for helping with Casten, @Reddy your race looks solid too

Thanks!

33 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020

I hope she doesn’t run again, there’s no point. Put Biden, Harris or my pipe dream of Kasich and Hickenlooper our there. Realistically though I bet an aged Trump gets a second term unless we face a recession or the middle class doesn’t see the value in him like they did in 2016. Voters might have a different perspective if Clinton isn’t around though.

1 hour ago, LittleHurt05 said:

Agreed that hurt him,  but even if he was "good " at his job,  he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. 

I don’t think this is true. Rainer has an easy playbook to follow on Charlie Baker and other NE governors, he tried to be Scott walker except he had no legislature. He was not a good politician and accomplished nothing.

Looks like Scott Walker has 9 Lives.

That race is going to go down to the middle of the morning, by the looks of it.

3000-ish vote spread with 6.7% still left to report (which typically would favor the Dems.)

Edited November 7, 20187 yr by caulfield12

Also, there's NO WAY IN HE-L-L Hillary Clinton is going to run again, let alone win the nomination.

The Me-Too movement and her husband's past transgressions (look at the trend of white/educated women voting DEM this election, it's almost 2 to 1) make this a complete non-starter.