19 hours ago, 2Deep said:

I gave you my opinion.  I'm not a psychologist nor have the time to devote to researching human behavior.  

The following is the statement that I stated does not work as a comparison between your everyday people and dudes/gals playing professional sports

if you're at a job or with a company that has zero direction, poor leadership, poor training and poor infrastructure...when you roll up to your cube each day, are you going "all-in" for that company each day, giving it max effort all 40 hours a week? For most...probably not?

To me, it is a privilege to play sports, enjoy the fame,  and earn millions of dollars.  In my opinion you cannot compare effort of an individual as described in the highlighted above to what Kopech just said about his time with the white sox.  Those comparisons are apples to cauliflower. 

I know a couple of pro athletes, former pro athletes actually.  It’s a job.  They go through the stresses and joy like anyone with a job, high paying or lower level.  Hell, one of them didn’t even like the sport he played.  He was just really good at it and it paid well. Yes, it’s easier to empathize with those that don’t make millions of dollars.  That makes sense.  However, to think human beings are going to be all in because you (the collective you, not you personally) think they’re playing a “kids game” and you know you’d never let up is ridiculous on its face.  Maybe because I’m in the sports world as a career I’ve become cynical.  I assume most athletes are like everyone else and have days they’d rather not work sort of like the rest of us.  
 

edit:  And like in any field there are those that are highly motivated, those that are in the middle and those that are lazy.  There are gung ho rookies and vets just trying to hang on and everything in between.  I give points to Kopech for honesty and it would make me trust him more.  

Edited December 7, 20241 yr by JTB

2 hours ago, Texsox said:

What would you have done to motivate him to play better? 

Put him in a better position for success starting in 2020. Communicate with him often, make sure he understands their plans for him. Start him off in AAA in 2021 and build his body back up slowly while also building up his mind, let his confidence in himself and in his coaches grow by letting him grow up into the role of a starter at a pace that works for him.

14 hours ago, Tony said:

He wasn’t even involved with the Bulls when Michael came to the org 

Doh, you’re right.  Jerry bought the Bulls in 1985, a year after Jordan was drafted.  So he’s an even worse owner than I thought.

Edited December 7, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

On 12/6/2024 at 10:48 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

The reason why there's a losing culture is because players like Kopech, Robert, Benintendi, Moncada, Eloy etc didn't play up to their abilities.  Move on from all of them and never look back.  

I don't disagree. If you keep producing these types of players, you have to look in the mirror.

 

We are in the Dollar Bill era of the White Sox.