2 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Not trolling. Replying to everyone that’s offended that I don’t take experimental vaccines and why they think I should be forced to take them.

This is what happens when we let people think that just because they have an opinion, that it is a valid and equal one.

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is what happens when we let people think that just because they have an opinion, that it is a valid and equal one.

Tough break for you I guess

12 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Not trolling. Replying to everyone that’s offended that I don’t take experimental vaccines and why they think I should be forced to take them.

You must be trolling, because by now, if you don't understand that the mRNA vaccines, by the time they were distributed, were not "experimental", you're just didn't pay attention to the actual facts. Trump issued executive orders that allowed drug companies to take short cuts in the processes of bringing these to market.

When a drug is being developed, it's submitted for testing. Those results are compiled and a report is written. The company then waits for approval to move on to the next step. The short cuts consisted of allowing the developing companies to start the next step while they waited for approval. Just an overlap.

All vaccines that were available for the first round of inoculation were as thoroughly tested as any other drug that comes to market. The main glitch in the initial release was that in rare cases, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine caused blood clots that needed to be treated differently. This was the single dose shot. About 5 people died, their vaccine was pulled, and J&J rewrote procedures for dealing with blood clots due to their product for emergency rooms. A few of the other deaths were due to myocarditis, or people just ignoring the allergy restrictions.

Nobody's offended you didn't want to be administered the vaccine. People are countering your assertion that the Constitution somehow says people don't have to do what they don't want to because of freedom, or something. The government has the right to issue vaccine mandates to protect the public health. This has been upheld by the Supreme Court multiple times.

The comments about me exiting society for not getting the vax would seem to counter the claim no one is offended.

Interesting that you give a drug approval scenario, since mRNA vaccines are not vaccines at all, but rather gene therapy. Vaccines have a slightly different approval process.

mRNA vaccines were not studied to the same extent as other vaccines or drug therapies. The claim that they’re not experimental is a technicality based on being given emergency use authorization. The prescribing information wasn’t available while people were being injected originally.

The side effects and overall mortality numbers have been downplayed tremendously.

8 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

The comments about me exiting society for not getting the vax would seem to counter the claim no one is offended.

Interesting that you give a drug approval scenario, since mRNA vaccines are not vaccines at all, but rather gene therapy. Vaccines have a slightly different approval process.

mRNA vaccines were not studied to the same extent as other vaccines or drug therapies. The claim that they’re not experimental is a technicality based on being given emergency use authorization. The prescribing information wasn’t available while people were being injected originally.

The side effects and overall mortality numbers have been downplayed tremendously.

You keep using this word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

25 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

The comments about me exiting society for not getting the vax would seem to counter the claim no one is offended.

Interesting that you give a drug approval scenario, since mRNA vaccines are not vaccines at all, but rather gene therapy. Vaccines have a slightly different approval process.

mRNA vaccines were not studied to the same extent as other vaccines or drug therapies. The claim that they’re not experimental is a technicality based on being given emergency use authorization. The prescribing information wasn’t available while people were being injected originally.

The side effects and overall mortality numbers have been downplayed tremendously.

And yet again we have another conspiracy theory. I remember when I had my first beer. 😄

18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

You keep using this word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

What word is that?

1 hour ago, SkokieSox said:

Interesting that you give a drug approval scenario, since mRNA vaccines are not vaccines at all, but rather gene therapy. Vaccines have a slightly different approval process.

Now comes the part when a Vaccine Babe just starts making stuff up because they're out of talking points. A vaccine prepares the immune system by introducing a pathogen so your body can learn to recognize and fight it before encountering the real thing. The mRNA vaccines do just that. The twist is they give your DNA an order to temporarily produce a certain protein that coats the coronavirus, it does, then eliminates it.

The mRNA order does not alter anybody's DNA, so no, it's not gene therapy. Perhaps that's why you're confused. You've been misinformed for as many as 5 years about this stuff. Can you tell us about this "slightly different process" that mRNA vaccines (that meet the medical definition of "vaccine") must go through?

As far as Prescribing Information, full PI on the Pfizer vaccine was available on August 23, 2021, and on January 31, 2022 for the Moderna. Consumers and doctors had all practical information they needed about the vaccines upon release. The EUA's contained all dosing and safety information needed for consumers to make decisions and doctors to administer.

The fact that you're making up a purely fictional not-vaccine process of approval tells me that immediate release of PIs wouldn't have mattered to you or others making the same arguments. They're 20-40 page documents that would be meaningless to you. They're not written for laypeople.

The side effects and mortality numbers have not been played down. I'm coming to understand that you don't have the capacity to understand what those numbers mean in the grand scheme. You downplay 8100 people dying every single day like that's a joke, while making hay over people having a sore arm and fatigue for a day, like that was a genocide.