12 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

yeah I understand, if some of these prospects bust out then they're no longer in the equation, 100% get that

I'm talking about in the situation where you don't know how good they'll be because they haven't even made the big league club yet, they should've been seeing which guys can move around the field defensively so they can plug them into other spots like CF

honestly, if they don't extend murakami, that would at least open up 1B/3B since Vargas can play there

The good thing is among the Sox prospects coming up , most have performed. Quero has regressed unfortunately. But there were a lot guys who couldve had sophomore slumps but didnt and thats why they are . 500 now along with other AL teams sputtering.

Between Mune and Vargas, Martin and Burke and everything else I mentioned a lot has gone right.

I don't know who is athletic enough to play CF among better prospects at other positions but I don't really concern myself very much over how its all going to shake out .

Zavala currently is having a good year and previous years of being inconsistent you can chalk up to his age or non-linear development. You just hope the changes last and he's gained some knowledge to progress even more. There's not much doubt at all about what a good defensive CFer he is .Now its all about progress offensively which is a never ending battle of adjustments.

Plus as I said you can trade infield prospects for OF Prospects at higher levels if you prefer that over tampering with farm debt to get established players that come with higher price tags that JR might be against.

4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Fans spend way too much time obsessing about future moves as to how they it relates to the present.

In 12 to 24 months we have no idea how any of the current players or prospects will be performing.Some sink some swim and others who were invisible suddenly appear. What appears to be a glut of talent can thin out very quickly due to injuries and non performance.

The last rebuild did exactly that and most of their top draft picks fizzled out and they built no depth in other rounds of the draft or internationally. It all dried up very fast.

Getz has tried to rebuild the talent pipeline internationally with the new Dominican Academy and new blood in that part of the organization. We have no idea if they might finally actually get some players out of it but its extremely necessary to the future depth of talent moving forward.But the near future for that might not be productive since youre getting such young players. It’s still in its infancy .

This is why we always hear that it's a good problem to have and teams like Tampa Bay navigate those waters better than anyone. We have no idea how long it'll be until the Ishbia's are the owners so its imperative that we keep building depth and keep the pipelines of talent acquisition running at a high level.

See starting pitching depth

SSmith injured

McDougal injured

Hagen control…can’t go past 3-4 innings

Oppor ???

Schultz will eventually be limited by pitch counts/ip

Plus all the tjs

That said they just can’t take Flora in the draft.

Second round, sure. Don’t force the whole Landon Thome thing, although Contreras’ son would be fun, if just 50% for sentimental reasons in Rd 3.

Edited Friday at 12:38 AM2 days by caulfield12

10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

See starting pitching depth

SSmith injured

McDougal injured

Hagen control…can’t go past 3-4 innings

Oppor ???

Schultz will eventually be limited by pitch counts/ip

Plus all the tjs

That said they just can’t take Flora in the draft.

Second round, sure. Don’t force the whole Landon Thome thing, although Contreras’ son would be fun, if just 50% for sentimental reasons in Rd 3.

I dont get what any of what you said applies to my post.

35 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I dont get what any of what you said applies to my post.

“In 12 to 24 months we have no idea how any of the current players or prospects will be performing.Some sink some swim and others who were invisible suddenly appear. What appears to be a glut of talent can thin out very quickly due to injuries and non performance.”

White Sox thought pitching depth was a strength on the off-season.

Now it’s suddenly not.

Cannon and Sandlin, lol?

Meanwhile, after the draft, they’ll suddenly be loaded with positional prospects.

Complete 180.

Cholowsky Carlson Braden Bonemer Antonacci Meidroth all fighting for starting positions. Maybe they also take Gasparino or Thome if it’s not pitching.

Quero and Acuna soon to be cast aside.

Edited Friday at 01:28 AM2 days by caulfield12

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/brewers-red-sox-kyle-harrison-203737325.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwih2uKunLqUAxX0J0QIHUzTAVsQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw3_dippdhJlicJ1Ny9JS4cq

Needs to be a trade similar to this...

9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/brewers-red-sox-kyle-harrison-203737325.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwih2uKunLqUAxX0J0QIHUzTAVsQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw3_dippdhJlicJ1Ny9JS4cq

Needs to be a trade similar to this...

Several posters said that the Hicks trade was under-appreciated (especially by me); maybe that one will turn out. Hicks is settling down. I think the prized prospect in that trade had a good start.

A year or so ago, the RedSox were over-subscribed in MI; they trade one, a couple of injuries and suddenly they are short and have to trade for Durbin (a player straight out of the Brewer dress-up factory).

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

“In 12 to 24 months we have no idea how any of the current players or prospects will be performing.Some sink some swim and others who were invisible suddenly appear. What appears to be a glut of talent can thin out very quickly due to injuries and non performance.”

White Sox thought pitching depth was a strength on the off-season.

Now it’s suddenly not.

Cannon and Sandlin, lol?

Meanwhile, after the draft, they’ll suddenly be loaded with positional prospects.

Complete 180.

Cholowsky Carlson Braden Bonemer Antonacci Meidroth all fighting for starting positions. Maybe they also take Gasparino or Thome if it’s not pitching.

Quero and Acuna soon to be cast aside.

I dont think they thought it was a strength unless you have a quote saying that. They knew it needed some depth and got a few extra pitchers .

I was just speaking general about how with a young team that you can run into regression and its not really a problem to have good prospects piling up.

I think they should at very least look into a viable righty DH bat. Those players don't cost much typically.

Grich seems to be filling that role so far, and, as he said on the post-game, he can be a valuable mentor to younger hitters. D Hill has also come through big as a RH pinch hitter. If Braden comes up he is a switch hitter that can help to balance the line-up.

There is always room for improvement but, as long as the Sox keep winning series, the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies.

If we can find a SP with 2+ years years of control left I would be open to trading some of our prospects. We are running thin on SP

The Sox currently have depth at SS and 2nd base plus Vargas solidifying 3rd base. I could see possibly packaging some minor league infielders that will be blocked from the big club into a trade.