BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Me? Hell yeah -- if only out of monetary concerns. Almost 3 Mill left over could be used on someone like Urbina about a month from now. And then there's the matter of 9 Mill in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Urbina signed with Detroit. Perez doesn't interest me. I want PK to be HERE for his comeback year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Agreed, the strategy is buy low and sell high. PK is still low right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Urbina signed with Detroit. And....? Detroit will be out of it by June. Eugie supposedly wouldn't mind playin' for Ozzie. He was lights out down the stretch with Florida -- something liek 1.50 ERA in the second half. Him, Politte and Marte (with Wunsht as a specialist) = World Series quality BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 And....? Detroit will be out of it by June. Eugie supposedly wouldn't mind playin' for Ozzie. He was lights out down the stretch with Florida -- something liek 1.50 ERA in the second half. Him, Politte and Marte (with Wunsht as a specialist) = World Series quality BP. U can always trade for a closer at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 U can always trade for a closer at the deadline. True, but like Williams showed last June, if you sneak in and grab someone in June the cost is a lot lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 And....? Detroit will be out of it by June. Eugie supposedly wouldn't mind playin' for Ozzie. He was lights out down the stretch with Florida -- something liek 1.50 ERA in the second half. Him, Politte and Marte (with Wunsht as a specialist) = World Series quality BP. And...............I don't think the Tigers are short-terming it. They're interested in changing the losing ways there, and you don't do that if you give up on people in a half-year. They're off to a good start and there's no really logical reason to think that they're necessarily going to be "out of it" by June. It's not like they have to play NY, Boston, Baltimore and Toronto 19 times a year. They're going to play the weak AL Central just like the Sox are, and if they can beat up on people, they won't be the doormats they were last year. And last year they weren't exactly doormats for the Sox with a MUCH weaker lineup than they can present now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Paulie's getting lots of support na. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 yeah lets trade a guy who is doing great right now for a pitcher who causes trouble in the clubhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 yeah lets trade a guy who is doing great right now for a pitcher who causes trouble in the clubhouse Deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Deal. That's pathetic - why in the right mind would you do this deal? To free up some salary space? PK is much more of a help to this team than an overrated pitcher. He sucks in a pitchers park, what will he do at the Cell? 6+ ERA is what I think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 That's pathetic - why in the right mind would you do this deal? For the same reason I'd do Koch for Freddy Garcia if such opportunity ever presented itself -- because I want to improve the ball club. There was a reason why Dodgers wouldn't do the deal in the off-season -- their new GM is no fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 For the same reason I'd do Koch for Freddy Garcia if such opportunity ever presented itself -- because I want to improve the ball club. The was a reason why Dodgers wouldn't do the deal in the off-season -- their new GM is not a fool. Yeah, I'm sure Paul Depodesta is looking at Paul Konerko's 370 average, six RBIs, and 414 OBP, and just laughing at it, as opposed to Odalis Perez' "awesome" numbers on the hill - 5.40 ERA, 7 earned runs in 11 and 2/3rds innings pitched, with a WHIP of 1.71. Yeah, I'm sure Paul Depodesta definitely wouldn't make that trade now... The trade didn't go through not because Depodesta wouldn't do it straight up Konerko for Perez - it was because Kenny wanted Mota as well as Jackson or Miller. Get your facts straight - your not an insider, you have no idea as to why the trade didn't go down. Brando, wake up from your dream world. There is no comparison between Perez and Konerko, Perez would be getting his ass shelled every game he started if he pitched here at the Cell. He sucks in a pitchers park, there's absolutely NO reason to think he'd do better here. Konerko is hitting the cover off the ball but it's all negative. Man, I've heard of pessimism, but you're taking it way too far - we win, you complain. We dominate - you complain. These are our players - deal with it. If you don't like them, go root for a team who's players you do like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Yeah, I'm sure Paul Depodesta is looking at Paul Konerko's 370 average, six RBIs, and 414 OBP, and just laughing at it, as opposed to Odalis Perez' "awesome" numbers on the hill - 5.40 ERA, 7 earned runs in 11 and 2/3rds innings pitched, with a WHIP of 1.71. Yeah, I'm sure Paul Depodesta definitely wouldn't make that trade now... Yeah....and 2 months from now when HeadcasePaulie is hitting 240 with 12 GIDP, 200 wRISP, with no speeed and no range at 1B.....while Perez has a 3.40 ERA.....See, two can play the guess game. Oh and money most definately matters. It's called budget flexibility, something Sox haven't had since they were saddled with Koch and Kong's contracts. The trade didn't go through not because Depodesta wouldn't do it straight up Konerko for Perez - it was because Kenny wanted Mota as well as Jackson or Miller. That's just laughable. Mota, Miller/Jackson were involved in a Magglio trade. Get your facts straight back atcha. Brando, wake up from your dream world Thanks for the advice. I'll pass. There is no comparison between Perez and Konerko, Perez would be getting his ass shelled every game he started if he pitched here at the Cell. I disagree. Man, I've heard of pessimism, but you're taking it way too far - we win, you complain. We dominate - you complain. These are our players - deal with it. If you don't like them, go root for a team who's players you do like... Shove the ad hominem up your ass, momo. The poll topic is "Konerko for Perez", not "let's discuss Brando", little s***. Capiche? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSHarris1 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 keep konerko hes doin great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 keep konerko hes doin great Too bad that isn't enough for sum ppl because of his paycheck. At least it's not a long term deal and it finishes next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Yeah....and 2 months from now when HeadcasePaulie is hitting 240 with 12 GIDP, 200 wRISP, with no speeed and no range at 1B.....while Perez has a 3.40 ERA.....See, two can play the guess game. Oh and money most definately matters. It's called budget flexibility, something Sox haven't had since they were saddled with Koch and Kong's contracts. That's just laughable. Mota, Miller/Jackson were involved in a Magglio trade. Get your facts straight back atcha. Thanks for the advice. I'll pass. I disagree. Shove the ad hominem up your ass, momo. The poll topic is "Konerko for Perez", not "let's discuss Brando", little s***. Capiche? You make absolutely no sense. You're judging guys on different scales very unfairly, which makes your argument mute. You say that Paul Konerko doesn't put up good numbers. Basing it on what, last year? OK, Konerko sucked last year. Then you ought to judge Perez on the same basis, past play. Well, Perez was terrible last season, in a PITCHERS PARK. HOW ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU DO NOT SUCCEED IN A PITCHER FRIENDLY PARK, CHANCES ARE YOU WON'T SUCCEED IN A HITTER FRIENDLY PARK! Hello? Is that hard to comprehend? You say that I'm playing the "guessing" game, when actually, I'm basing my arguments on facts and stats, while your basing your argument on your opinion. I presented you with how each has performed thus far - can we not agree that Paully has done way better than Perez? Please tell me that Konerko has done better than Perez, if you don't, you're crazy.... Please, using some stats, facts, something besides just your opinion, tell me why you have some 'secret' reason to believe that Perez would do better here, in a hitters park, when he's already pitching in a pitcher-friendly park. You say Perez did well in Spring Training. Well, Billy Koch did pretty damn well in Spring Training too. But you don't like Koch? So did Danny Wright, he did pretty well in earning himself a starters spot in Spring Training. Kelly Drandsfeldt (sp?) also did pretty well for himself in Spring Training. Point is, numbers can lie in Spring Training. BTW, I really don't appreciate personal attacks like "little s***" or "momo" (Is that supposed to be "homo"?). All that shows is that you can't really back up your argument, so you feel to cuss me out. I don't know, perhaps you can explain that too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 BTW, I really don't appreciate personal attacks like "little s***" or "momo Frankly, that's all you deserve. Maybe next time you won't stray from the topic at hand. As soon as you use my moniker and get all META- on me, you waive your right to a decent response. Deal with it. Or don't. I could care less either way. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 brando you have no baseball knowledge at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 the reason people are discussing you is because you can't spell and no absolutely no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 brando you have no baseball knowledge at all Well, if you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 i guarantee you Konerko will not be hitting .240 in 2 months and Perez will not have a 3.40 era...and a 3.40 era is even just average when your playing in Yellowstone...I mean Dodger Stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Frankly, that's all you deserve. Maybe next time you won't stray from the topic at hand. As soon as you use my moniker and get all META- on me, you waive your right to a decent response. Deal with it. Or don't. I could care less either way. Take care. and you wonder why Aboz isn't around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Frankly, that's all you deserve. Maybe next time you won't stray from the topic at hand. As soon as you use my moniker and get all META- on me, you waive your right to a decent response. Deal with it. Or don't. I could care less either way. Take care. Am I reading something wrong? Isn't the topic about Konerko and Perez? How am I straying from the topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 and you wonder why Aboz isn't around? Who is aboz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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