May 26, 200421 yr Starts play Uribe at short, JV is automatic out against any LH with marginal stuff.
May 26, 200421 yr It seems like that is the only way it can be unless if valentine really has someones number like something crazy 15-20 imo.
May 26, 200421 yr I've never seen a pitcher so thoroughly own a batter the way Kenny Rogers did to Valentin tonight. He struck out Valentin 3 f***ing times on that same f***ing curve ball & made him look stupid every time. Rogers was toying with that poor jackass.
May 26, 200421 yr I've never seen a pitcher so thoroughly own a batter the way Kenny Rogers did to Valentin tonight. He struck out Valentin 3 f***ing times on that same f***ing curve ball & made him look stupid every time. Rogers was toying with that poor jackass. I've been against trading Jose for the fact that he's the only left handed power in this sox lineup. But is it time to try and find a taker for Jose and let Juan and Willie play up the middle and dare I say call Borchard up and play cf. I'm not sure if that's the best solution but it might be something to think about.
May 26, 200421 yr if I posted that, I think I would get viciously attacked. so I will say nothing but right on, my brotha!
May 26, 200421 yr It was a matter of time before the wolves came out "oooooing" out da ol' woodwork. One bad game to be precise. It doesn't matter that Jose smoked the ball off Santana and Romero, both tough lefties, just 2 days ago.....It doesn't matter that Willie Harris is much worse against them, in general and that progress Jose showed against lefties in Spring Training was enough to convince Ozzie that he could be tolerable against them.......Which he was, btw, with 300+ OBP coming into tonight's game. Valentin haters amuse me. I can't wait for him to have 2 straight bad games....All hell will break loose.
May 26, 200421 yr It was a matter of time before the wolves came out "oooooing" out da woodwork. One bad game to be precise. It doesn't matter that Jose smoked the ball off Santana and Romero, both tough lefties, just 2 days ago.....It doesn't matter that Willie Harris is much worse against them, in general and that progress Jose showed against lefties in Spring Training was enough for Ozzie....... Valentin haters amuse me. I can't wait for him to have 2 straight bad games....All hell will break loose. All that i'm saying is he looked awful tonight, do you not agree???
May 26, 200421 yr It was a matter of time before the wolves came out "oooooing" out da woodwork. One bad game to be precise. It doesn't matter that Jose smoked the ball off Santana and Romero, both tough lefties, just 2 days ago.....It doesn't matter that Willie Harris is much worse against them, in general and that progress Jose showed against lefties in Spring Training was enough for Ozzie....... Valentin haters amuse me. I can't wait for him to have 2 straight bad games....All hell will break loose. I'm far from a Jose hater. I've actually supported him most of the time. I think it might just be time to let Willie and Uribe play the middle infield, to say the least that dp combo is exciting and I still absolutely love when those two are at the top of the order.
May 26, 200421 yr Valentin haters amuse me. I can't wait for him to have 2 straight bad games....All hell will break loose. Dude, he had about 4 bad games all rolled into 1 night. Kenny Rogers made Valentin his b**** worse than I've ever seen a pitcher do to a hitter in one game. Burhle doesn't even own Jauqe Jones that badly. At least MB had to use a different pitch to strike him out 3 times.
May 26, 200421 yr I want to see him dealt. I really do. Get a decent RH option out of the pen for him, and let the ship sink or sail with Harris and Uribe.
May 26, 200421 yr It doesn't matter that Jose smoked the ball off Santana and Romero, both tough lefties, just 2 days ago. Santana has not been a good lefty this year. (So far)
May 26, 200421 yr Dude, he had about 4 bad games all rolled into 1 night. That's just stupid. 0 for 4 is 0 for 4 is 0 for 4 - unless you think that a strike-out is somehow worse than a pop-up or a DP ball.....
May 26, 200421 yr Kenny Rogers made Valentin his b**** worse than I've ever seen a pitcher do to a hitter in one game. Rogers to Valentin is Marte to G. Anderson.
May 26, 200421 yr Santana has not been a good lefty this year. (So far) Either has Romero. I definitely agree with you though on Juan and Willie let those two play, they're both awesome to watch, good defenders and damn good hitters, plus the fact they both seem to be spark plugs for this team.
May 26, 200421 yr Santana has not been a good lefty this year. (So far) Yeah, especially against lefties who've never faced him before from that side.....
May 26, 200421 yr Yeah, especially against lefties who've never faced him before from that side..... That's a weak argument and you know it. A rookie that's never seen a major league pitch was liable to hammer Santana that day. Jose knows what Santana has, knows the timing, he's just on the other side of the plate. You can do better Brando.
May 26, 200421 yr 2nd inning Pitch 1 - Called Strike Pitch 2 - Swinging Strike Pitch 3 - Swinging Strike Jose Valentin strikes out swinging. 4rd inning Pitch 1 - Called Strike Pitch 2 - Swinging Strike Pitch 3 - Foul Pitch 4 - Ball Pitch 5 - Swinging Strike Jose Valentin strikes out swinging. 6th inning Pitch 1 - Called Strike Pitch 2 - Ball Pitch 3 - Called Strike Pitch 4 - Swinging Strike Jose Valentin strikes out swinging. 8th inning Pitch 1 - Called Strike Pitch 2 - Ball Pitch 3 - Called Strike Pitch 4 - Swinging Strike Jose Valentin strikes out swinging. 16 pitches -- 7 swings -- 1 foul ball 1 bad night :headshake
May 26, 200421 yr That's a weak argument and you know it. A rookie that's never seen a major league pitch was liable to hammer Santana that day. Jose knows what Santana has, knows the timing, he's just on the other side of the plate. You can do better Brando. Weak my arse. Valentin had his contacts in backwards or something tonight & never should have ben allowed to bat in that situation. We needed baserunners & runs & they let f***ing Valentin bat again & what happens? He went down swinging again on another curve ball. He couldn't lay off that pitch all night & all they had to do was throw him another one to kill off any Sox Rally.
May 26, 200421 yr To me it's not that he strike out it's how he struck out he was swinging at pitches 2 feet off the plate, and that's not exaggerating.
May 26, 200421 yr To me it's not that he strike out it's how he struck out he was swinging at pitches 2 feet off the plate. Like I said he couldnt lay off that same lameo curveball all night long. Even f***ing Konerko layed off that pitch.
May 26, 200421 yr He was bad tonight. He looked ugly against LHP. He's ALWAYS looked bad against LHP, no matter what the pitcher throws. But let's all completely forget about his 1.000 OPS against RHP(which, BTW, is leading the team...in fact, he's the only player on the team with an OPS of 1.000 against RHP...Thomas is second with .991). He looked like s***. Who would you rather have out there, Willie Harris and his .192 OPS against LHP?
May 26, 200421 yr He looked like s***. Who would you rather have out there, Willie Harris and his .192 OPS against LHP? How bout someone who can lay off a f***ing curve ball in the dirt?
May 26, 200421 yr How bout someone who can lay off a f***ing curve ball in the dirt? That would be nice.
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