November 5, 200421 yr I think that if all of our trades fall through and the money isn't there, Woody Williams deserves a look from us. He's 38 but has postseason experience and is the type of veteran that you can depend on every 5th day. I think he will be around 2 years/12 million. I'm not saying this would be our #1 choice but I think he's an intriguing backup plan. Plus, he won't break the bank annually and won't require anything longer than 2 years. It is believed he is looking for more than a one year deal. Woody Williams as a 4-5th starter? Sounds good to me, how about you?
November 5, 200421 yr I think that if all of our trades fall through and the money isn't there, Woody Williams deserves a look from us. He's 38 but has postseason experience and is the type of veteran that you can depend on every 5th day. I think he will be around 2 years/12 million. I'm not saying this would be our #1 choice but I think he's an intriguing backup plan. Plus, he won't break the bank annually and won't require anything longer than 2 years. It is believed he is looking for more than a one year deal. Woody Williams as a 4-5th starter? Sounds good to me, how about you? He will make closer to 4 million next year than 2.5. Like you said he is not a bad fall back option.
November 5, 200421 yr Author Yeah I was saying 6 a year but that is pessimistic I hope. I don;t know if I believe that pitchers are "grinders" like everyone says about Buehrle but if you believe in that, Woody is a definite grinder.
November 5, 200421 yr Author I looked at Woody's splits and he pitched much better after April and that was because he had to have srping training in big league games. He did give up 20 homers though. However, a remarkable 10 were against the Reds and I have no idea what to make of that (over 37 innings). I think he's in line to win 14-17 with a 4.25 era and a 1.30 whip or thereabouts.
November 5, 200421 yr Extremely injury prone. I would avoid him. Plus there is the Dave Duncan factor.
November 5, 200421 yr Author I couldn't really agree with the injury prone. He;s been healthy and productive the last three years out of four.
November 5, 200421 yr I couldn't really agree with the injury prone. He;s been healthy and productive the last three years out of four. In 2002 he only started 17 games, which is hardly healthy.
November 5, 200421 yr Author right but the other 3 years he's made over 30 starts. I would sotp short of saying he's automatic as far as health but injury=prone may be a harsh label. He's a 200 inning guy really. It would sort of be like calling John Smoltz injury prone. They have injuries and troubles but they still take the ball. Very much the gamers.
November 5, 200421 yr right but the other 3 years he's made over 30 starts. I would sotp short of saying he's automatic as far as health but injury=prone may be a harsh label. He's a 200 inning guy really. It would sort of be like calling John Smoltz injury prone. They have injuries and troubles but they still take the ball. Very much the gamers.
November 5, 200421 yr I looked at Woody's splits and he pitched much better after April and that was because he had to have srping training in big league games. He did give up 20 homers though. However, a remarkable 10 were against the Reds and I have no idea what to make of that (over 37 innings). I think he's in line to win 14-17 with a 4.25 era and a 1.30 whip or thereabouts. That's because the Reds have an AL type lineup with all those thumpers. That doesn't bode well for Woody, especially in the Cell.
November 5, 200421 yr I'd pass on Williams. I think he's probably on the downslope. Down here in Cardinal counrty most of my Card fan friends are down on him also.
November 5, 200421 yr I think that if all of our trades fall through and the money isn't there, Woody Williams deserves a look from us. He's 38 but has postseason experience and is the type of veteran that you can depend on every 5th day. I think he will be around 2 years/12 million. I'm not saying this would be our #1 choice but I think he's an intriguing backup plan. Plus, he won't break the bank annually and won't require anything longer than 2 years. It is believed he is looking for more than a one year deal. Woody Williams as a 4-5th starter? Sounds good to me, how about you? once again, there is no reason to sign a 5th starter at 4 million dollars a year, when we dont even reallyhave a top of the rotation starter. Signing pitchers just to sign them is a move only done by teams who have money to burn, which we dont. If you are going to spend money, you need to sign a difference maker...bad idea and will never happen
November 5, 200421 yr If Woody is the best pitcher left out there, then so be it, but I'm not too enthused about seeing him here unless it's for a cheap amount of money.
November 6, 200421 yr Insisting he will pitch somewhere next season, Woody Williams filed for free agency Thursday after the Cardinals decided to exercise a $900,000 buyout rather than assume his $8 million option for 2005. Williams, 38, said he is "definitely interested" in returning for a fifth season to the Cardinals and remained in the dark about the team's plans for its rotation. "It's where I've been the last three-plus years," Williams said Thursday night. "My family has enjoyed it there. That's important. But I guess they've got to do what they've got to do." http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...+Woody+Williams
November 6, 200421 yr I couldn't really agree with the injury prone. He;s been healthy and productive the last three years out of four. Oh, he is very injury prone, he is one of those guys, that here "always is soemthing"
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