http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=55510

 

A wild card in the shortstop sweepstakes are the White Sox, who have money to spend and do not intend to give it to Jose Valentin, their aging shortstop who batted only .216 but with a career-high 30 homers. Having them become a suitor for Garciaparra cannot be ruled out, especially with Chicago owner Jerry Reinsdorf having a good relationship with the shortstop's agent, Arn Tellem.

 

GET HIM, JERRY!

 

Why go after Renteria or Cabrera when a better hitting SS can be had for virtually the same asking price?

This the Nomar from the late 90s or the Nomar from late? If it's the latter, I think the Sox would have to pass for that asking price.

if the price is right, go for it.

but my thinking is nomar still thinks he's worth more than he is.

To Point something out. I know many Sox fans were concerned about Nomar's awful road splits away from Fenway park the past couple years when the Sox had acquired him this past offseason.

 

Well if it helps at all, he hit .308 with a .365 OBP and .842 OPS combined last season...although he appeared in just 81 games. Although at 31 he still has some good years ahead of him, imo.

 

However in 43 games with the Cubs he hit .297 with a .364 OBP which was still very solid and would be a definate upgrade in the 2 slot. Just make sure Uribe spells him every once in a while.

 

6 to 7 mill over 1 year and maybe an option year if Nomar's people want it would be fine by me. In fact, I'd be exstatic. Also his splits this past season were better on the road then home.

 

I don't know his status but he did play in 156 games each of the previous two seasons.

If he stays healthy, he's still an incredible player. not the greatest defensively, but not a butcher either.

aren't all shortstops aging?

aren't all shortstops aging?

No. Young shortstops are maturing.

What age does it go from maturing to aging to good clubhouse presence for young shortstops?

if it's a one-year deal, why not. being in a hitters park, the Sox need to get guys like Garciappara, who are looking for the big contract but need to prove it with health and numbers.

Why go after Renteria or Cabrera when a better hitting SS can be had for virtually the same asking price?

Because you know Rentaria and Cabrera will play almost every day and give you gold glove defense and good hitting. With the exception of the hitting, you can't say the same about Nomar for the rest.

 

With that being said, if the price is right, I'd take a chance on Nomar for a year. Unfortunately, he'll be asking for much more than he's worth, and in the words of Happy Gilmore, "the price is wrong b****."

When I read the Herald this morning, I couldn't believe my eyes.

 

Two things to say though.

 

First of all, he is not a two hole hitter, nor do I ever want to see him in the two hole. If he is signed, he should replace Maggs in that three spot with Frank behind him and Konerko following the hurt.

 

Secondly, what relationship do Arn Tellem and JR have?

When I read the Herald this morning, I couldn't believe my eyes.

 

Two things to say though.

 

First of all, he is not a two hole hitter, nor do I ever want to see him in the two hole.  If he is signed, he should replace Maggs in that three spot with Frank behind him and Konerko following the hurt.

 

Secondly, what relationship do Arn Tellem and JR have?

Excellent. They have always negotiated Frank's contracts directly, cutting out everyone else. Even after KW exercized the diminished skills clause, JR and Tellum are the ones who supposedly came up with the current contract Frank has been working with.

Excellent.  They have always negotiated Frank's contracts directly, cutting out everyone else.  Even after KW exercized the diminished skills clause, JR and Tellum are the ones who supposedly came up with the current contract Frank has been working with.

He's Franks agent too, now it makes sense.

This would be good...if the Cubs sign Maggs, then it would be a straight up trade...from last year. Maggs for Nomar. KW always gets his way.

This would be good...if the Cubs sign Maggs, then it would be a straight up trade...from last year.  Maggs for Nomar.  KW always gets his way.

 

Just like he planned it!

 

Just like he planned it!

You beat me to it

NO thank you, you people rip on me for over spending on Orlando Cabera, and you guys are drulling over Nomar... NO THANK YOU

 

I rather risk bringing back Jose.. At least he would be in the lineup everyday

what kinda injurys did normar have? i know he didnt play much in 2003 or 2004 but what happened?

what kinda injurys did normar have? i know he didnt play much in 2003 or 2004 but what happened?

As Tony mentioned, it was surgery and an achilles.

 

But he had the surgery on his wrist and missed like 140 games in 01, not 03. He played all last year with Boston, 156 games...in fact, he played 156 games in both 02 and 03...I believe that has been mentioned before by Jas.

NO thank you, you people rip on me for over spending on Orlando Cabera, and you guys are drulling over Nomar... NO THANK YOU

 

I rather risk bringing back Jose.. At least he would be in the lineup everyday

When playing more then 80 games(which means it includes this year), Nomar has never hit less then .300...he went 21 for 87 in 24 games in 96 for Boston for a .240-ish average, and he hit .289 in like 21 games for Boston in 01. Otherwise, he has hit atleast .300 in every year of his career.

 

He's been injured twice in his career. And for $7-8 mill?

 

The only risk you take is that he gets injured, and odds are very good that with him resting his body this offseason for the most part, he will be solid for you and will give you 150 games. His throwing arm is erratic, but he has quite a bit of range defensively IIRC.

 

He'd be a very solid pickup for us...more so then Cabrera. Cabrera will come at $6 mill per year for 3-4 years, while Nomar comes at $7-8 mill for 1 year, maybe 2 with an option. Garciaparra has been much more consistent offensively throughout his career, and he is decent defensively.

When playing more then 80 games(which means it includes this year), Nomar has never hit less then .300...he went 21 for 87 in 24 games in 96 for Boston for a .240-ish average, and he hit .289 in like 21 games for Boston in 01.  Otherwise, he has hit atleast .300 in every year of his career.

 

He's been injured twice in his career.  And for $7-8 mill?

 

The only risk you take is that he gets injured, and odds are very good that with him resting his body this offseason for the most part, he will be solid for you and will give you 150 games.  His throwing arm is erratic, but he has quite a bit of range defensively IIRC.

 

He'd be a very solid pickup for us...more so then Cabrera.  Cabrera will come at $6 mill per year for 3-4 years, while Nomar comes at $7-8 mill for 1 year, maybe 2 with an option.  Garciaparra has been much more consistent offensively throughout his career, and he is decent defensively.

The only one thing that worrys me!We have heard he is head case,and bad for the clubhouse. I cant imagine Frank and Nomar in that same dugout.

I honestly believe that Frank is the victim of a vindictive media with too much free time on their hands.

I love Frank and I hope he retires a Sox and we can win a championship with him.

He had surgery on his wrist that really hurt him, and last year in Boston and Chicago he had a bad achiles.

A wrist injury sounds really scary to me and I think I'd be correct in saying many players have had trouble getting over bad wrists.

I believe JR also dealt directly with Arn Tellem on the Albert Belle deal.

 

As much as he dislikes Boras, he likes Tellem.

 

If the price is right and Nomar checks out physically, I'd do this.

 

we need a bat to replace Maggs.

 

And its easier to find another outfielder than a shortstop.

 

Rowand CF

Nomar SS

Frank DH

Konerko 1B

Caballo LF

Everett RF

Uribe 2B

Crede 3b

Davis C

 

it ain't much defensively, but we could still score some runs.

A wrist injury sounds really scary to me and I think I'd be correct in saying many players have had trouble getting over bad wrists.

It has not been a reoccurring injury. If I remember it right, it was a freak injury type of thing...he didn't even know how he messed up his wrist in the first place, but he messed them up pretty badly. He had surgery to fix them, and he was back in 2002, not quite at the same as he was prior to that, but he was back none the less.

 

And as I have said, he almost never hits below .300 too. He'd be a damn good #3 hitter for us with Caballo hitting 5th, Frank hitting 4th, and Rowand in the #2 hole. The only thing I'd be worried about is a leadoff hitter at that point in time.