FlaSoxxJim Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I'm no barbarian, I'm doing the 12 if I am going out. The 8 will suffice if they can't get ahold of the 12. I have heard though that they do a triple at the Abbey that they don't let out to the public at all. THAT would be the main choice though. Welcome to soxtalk!!! Cool to see Westy was your reason to post! I would actually be happy with a few of the Trappist Ales, and or Abbel Ales if they couldn't get ahold of the Westvleteren. I would even take that limited Goose Island, Jene whatever. That is some TASTY stuff, and a dang shame it is a limited. Though it is making me NOT buy up all of the Goose Demolition. I've not had that, but I assume from the name it might be in the style of a Jenlain French/Flanders country ale? A few years ago I tried the Goose version of a traditional Finnish sahti - brewed with juniper berries and all - and it was stellar. It does the heart good to see some real beer hounds out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Argh, I got the name goofed: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/1549/16807/ "Pere Jacques" is the name and it is a Belgian Strong/Dubble. Wonderful stuff I could never recommend highly enough. I have two bottle hiding in my beer cellar right now, keeping company with a 750 of St. Bernardus 12, 750 of La Trappe Quad, 750 of Westmalle Triple, some Gulden Drak, some of my cousins brew including a few IPA's and a Belgian. Then there is my beer fridge stocked full of happy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Then there is my beer fridge stocked full of happy stuff. My beer fridge is never so happy as around the holidays. I've not had time to be ultra agressive in pursuing Christmas tipples this year, but I still have enough to curl my toes and light up my nose: Sierra Celebration (the past 3 years are represented), Bigfoot (2 vintages), Sam Smith Winter Welcome, some Anchor Holiday Ale, a couple of bottles of Winter Hook, and a 4-pack of last year's Samichlaus. If we get really festive, we might bust into one of the last two bottles of the first Sam Adams Triple Bock vintage I've managed to hold onto for 10 years or so. God Bless Us (*hic*)... Everyone!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 The more I think about it I think I would like a nice Billy Beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 ...last year's Samichlaus. If we get really festive, we might bust into one of the last two bottles of the first Sam Adams Triple Bock vintage I've managed to hold onto for 10 years or so. God Bless Us (*hic*)... Everyone!! 10 year old Triple Bock??? I've never had it at all, but that sounds WONDERFUL!!! A buddy has about 10 '95 Samiclauses we will be busting into on Jan. 15th to celebrate his finishing his basement off. He's another beer freak and his basement is equipped with a full bar, kegerator, beer fridge, and makeshift beer cellar. He also has a nice 52" widescreen HDTV (mines a 57"...ahem) and a killer surround system that goes throughout the whole basement, a band room, and a beautiful 1916 Brunswick pool table!!! So the Sami's (and a keg of Delirium Noel supplied by a local bar he is buds with) will go well with one hell of a party! Best aspect? He's my best friend and we live right next door to each other. There is never a shortage of beer or of a safe path home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 The Sam Triple Bock stretches the bounds of what is defined as beer. It is fermented, malted barley so it's clearly beer, but it's also up in the >>15+% alc. range (they used a very alcohol tolerant Champaign yeast to finish out secondary fermentation), and it's bottled still (even the Champaign yeast couldn't cope for bottle conditioning). So it's a lot more like a really high-octane port than any beer I've ever had. It has been at least 5 years since I opened one, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what cellaring has done for it. 1995 Samichlaus predate the sell off of Hurlimann by a couple years, so you have a fine rare beer there. I'm jealous. And kegs of Christmas Delerium a mere stumble away... I'm really jealous! Life got too busy and the homebrewing has been on hold for the past year, but before this year I liked to brew a corny keg or two of a nicely spiced gingerbread brown ale for the holiday party season. I wish I had bottled some of it last year and I might have some left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Dogfish Head Au Courant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 How come nobody's said Papst Blue Ribbon? Give me a Guinness and I'm a happy guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Heineken and rolling rock mmm good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficerKarkovice Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Honestly...Busch Light. :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 The Sam Triple Bock stretches the bounds of what is defined as beer. It is fermented, malted barley so it's clearly beer, but it's also up in the >>15+% alc. range (they used a very alcohol tolerant Champaign yeast to finish out secondary fermentation), and it's bottled still (even the Champaign yeast couldn't cope for bottle conditioning). So it's a lot more like a really high-octane port than any beer I've ever had. It has been at least 5 years since I opened one, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what cellaring has done for it. 1995 Samichlaus predate the sell off of Hurlimann by a couple years, so you have a fine rare beer there. I'm jealous. And kegs of Christmas Delerium a mere stumble away... I'm really jealous! Life got too busy and the homebrewing has been on hold for the past year, but before this year I liked to brew a corny keg or two of a nicely spiced gingerbread brown ale for the holiday party season. I wish I had bottled some of it last year and I might have some left. I wanted to try that special beer they made a few years ago for New Years, but it was like $150 a bottle. Do you remember what they call it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I wanted to try that special beer they made a few years ago for New Years, but it was like $150 a bottle. Do you remember what they call it? Yeah, that was the Sam Adams Millennium, and $150 for a bottle of it would not have been bad at all. It was basically what the Triple Bock evolved into, and they were able to get it up to 20% alc. by really working their yeast, so it is firmly entrenched as the strongest beer ever brewed. It was sold in 750 ml punt-bottomed cobalt blue bottles with platinum lettering (Triple Bock was mere 14k gold). There were only 3,000 bottles produceda nd most of that went to employees (each got one bottle). Sadly, I never had a chance to sample it either. More Trivia: Bottle #1 sold for more than $4,000 at a charity auction: More Here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Yeah, that was the Sam Adams Millennium, and $150 for a bottle of it would not have been bad at all. It was basically what the Triple Bock evolved into, and they were able to get it up to 20% alc. by really working their yeast, so it is firmly entrenched as the strongest beer ever brewed. It was sold in 750 ml punt-bottomed cobalt blue bottles with platinum lettering (Triple Bock was mere 14k gold). There were only 3,000 bottles produceda nd most of that went to employees (each got one bottle). Sadly, I never had a chance to sample it either. More Trivia: Bottle #1 sold for more than $4,000 at a charity auction: More Here... Yeah that's it! I think it was intended to be dranked warm. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Yeah that's it! I think it was intended to be dranked warm. :puke Yep, and it wasn't carbonated either. Jim Koch basically said it was one for the record books, and he wasn't actually all that happy with the flavor profile of the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Argh, I got the name goofed: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/1549/16807/ "Pere Jacques" is the name and it is a Belgian Strong/Dubble. Wonderful stuff I could never recommend highly enough. I have two bottle hiding in my beer cellar right now, keeping company with a 750 of St. Bernardus 12, 750 of La Trappe Quad, 750 of Westmalle Triple, some Gulden Drak, some of my cousins brew including a few IPA's and a Belgian. Then there is my beer fridge stocked full of happy stuff. The Pere Jacques isn't bad...I have a few in my beer cellar. The Westy 12 is nicely done, quite similar to the Rochefort. And of course the Rochefort is much easier to get and cheaper. I have a few bottles of Bernardus 12 cellared for the holidays...plus some other interesting stuff. I am a big geuze fan, so I have been scrounging for those lately. There is a sweet store up in Ann Arbor so I try to get there every couple of months... Another solid Belgian Style is Great Lakes Anniversary...I lived in Cleveland last year, and boy did I love that place. Goose is good, but Great Lakes is flat out phenomenal. Every time I went in there they had a good seasonal ready to go and their Christmas Ale is top notch. We should listo ur cellars and have a tasting event! Thanks for the welcome...I love good beer threads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Jagermeister. I'll be drunk even in death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Alright, I think this will have interesting feedback. For those of you over 21, or for those experienced drinkers under 21, if you had a choice of any beer in the world before you were executed, what would it be? For those under 21....well, whatever. I'm interested to hear responses, especially Flaxx's. McEwens. That stuff is 8.2% alcohol and will get you f***ed up with a quickness. CubKilla can back me up on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I am a big geuze fan, so I have been scrounging for those lately. There is a sweet store up in Ann Arbor so I try to get there every couple of months... Another solid Belgian Style is Great Lakes Anniversary...I lived in Cleveland last year, and boy did I love that place. Goose is good, but Great Lakes is flat out phenomenal. Every time I went in there they had a good seasonal ready to go and their Christmas Ale is top notch. We should listo ur cellars and have a tasting event! Thanks for the welcome...I love good beer threads! Welcome aboard! First, I have never heard anyone in the states other than myself utter the words, "I am a big geuze fan" There are only one places in my entire state that carry it, usually just Lindermnn's and Leifmann's (sp??), and it's at least a 90 minute drive to get. Sometimes they carry a faro as well, but I like to pretend I'm in a nice Brussels cafe and make my own with table sugar. You can get the damn fruit lambics anywhere (not that they are not also nice), but people look at me like I'm from another planet if I ask them for the gueze. I can't say anything bad about Great Lakes - other than the fact that it's just up the road from the Jake and it cheeses me off that undeserving Tribe fans get such a good place. I've not had anything from them in a Belgian style though, so that Anniversary ale sounds intriguing. How does it stack up to the North American neo-Belgians like Ommegang, New Belgium, and Unibroue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Welcome aboard! First, I have never heard anyone in the states other than myself utter the words, "I am a big geuze fan" There are only one places in my entire state that carry it, usually just Lindermnn's and Leifmann's (sp??), and it's at least a 90 minute drive to get. Sometimes they carry a faro as well, but I like to pretend I'm in a nice Brussels cafe and make my own with table sugar. You can get the damn fruit lambics anywhere (not that they are not also nice), but people look at me like I'm from another planet if I ask them for the gueze. I can't say anything bad about Great Lakes - other than the fact that it's just up the road from the Jake and it cheeses me off that undeserving Tribe fans get such a good place. I've not had anything from them in a Belgian style though, so that Anniversary ale sounds intriguing. How does it stack up to the North American neo-Belgians like Ommegang, New Belgium, and Unibroue? I'm not a fan of the flavored lambics...but I sure do love a good lambic! I just moved back to Chicago and am anxiously trying to get my first visits in to The Map Room and Hopleaf, one of which has Bernardus 12 on tap and both are supposed to have some great stuff. As for the Great Lakes Anniversary, it's quite good. Bottled at 9.5% ABV and I'd guess it might be slightly higher seeing as though they bottled this last year (which was their 10th Anniversary). I actually haven't had one in a while and just recently started taking tasting notes, so I don't want to give a detailed review. But if memory serves me correct, it is a smooth beer with a good flavor. It's definitely strong...As with most everything from Great Lakes, I was impressed with the quality and flavor, and it's not that expensive and fairly easy to find (in the Midwest). In fact, I am headed out to the Sms Wine/Spirits in the suburbs here today to stock up on some things and hopefully add a couple bottles of Boon Geuze to my 1 cellared for the holidays. I also am hoping to run across a smoked beer or two. If anyone around Chicago is ever interested in hitting Hopleaf or the Map Room, let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hopleaf rocks. I also recommend the Clark Street Ale House if you have not been. Around the holidays they usually have a lot of barleywines on tap (Old Foghat and Bogfoot), good midwest stuff from Third Coast and Bells and Three Floyds, New Glarus, etc. Plus it's a stumble away from the Clark Street Blue Chocago and some good tapas resturaunts. Someone please rescue me from the beer wasteland that is Florida! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I concur about the undeserving Indian fans getting the GLakes brewery! Man, their Burning River is the best! My buddy, the guy next door doing the party, pretty much keeps the River in his kegerator. That is what is residing in there right now. Mmmmmm, lovely. Their Anniversary is good, but not great, IMO. It's a Triple, and I would put it up with Ommegang, but I am one of the few who is NOT in love with Ommegang. They are good, but they don't hold a candle to Bernardus or the true Belgians. I also prefer the Goose Pere to Ommegang. I still have yet to get to Hop Leaf. My boss goes there all the time, but he is a Cubs fan with season tix, and he goes after the games. I, personally, HATE the city, so you won't find me down there all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 I've never been floored by Ommegang's stuff, but it's always been passable. I figure it passes as another reason Cooperstown is on my to see list. I really think Unibroue out of Quebec is the best North American Belgian-style brewery. Everything they have ever put out has been exceptional, with the exception of Raftsman Ale which is merely very good (but major props for trying to pull off a smoked white beer). Maybe the only complaint I have with them is they don't have ANY low alc. offerings. Everything they do is in the 8-9% (mostly 9%) range, so they're not exactly session beers (*hic!*) I thoroughly miss Celis out of Austin (cry with me, Tex). Not only did they take Hoegarden and improve on it, they had a really nice dobbel and a great grand cru. In the states, Allagash is the brewery coming close to that caliber right now. Hard to go wrong with anything from New Belgium either, and I think Fat Tire has been a real eye opening beer for a lot of people transitioning into craft beer enthusiasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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