Ben Davis - .231, 6 HR's, 16 RBI's in 54 games.

Benito Santiago - .274, 6 HR's, 23 RBI's in 49 games.

 

If Rob Machowiak is expensive for $1.5 million, what about Ben Davis?

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Ben Davis is making only $1 million.

Why not?  Benito Santiago is 40 and Cota isn't a top prospect or anything.  And J.R. House is gone.

 

Whoever their catcher is will bat 8th for them so it's not like they are looking for an upgrade offensively. Even if they were they would not look at davis? What does davis bring to the table defensively? :puke They have two s***ty starters in their rotation and their pen is thin. They need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Not a bust who is paid one million dollar. If they really want a catcher they can sign robby hammock or brook fordyce for a minor league contract without giving up any talent whatsoever.

Whoever their catcher is will bat 8th for them so it's not like they are looking for an upgrade offensively. Even if they were they would not look at davis? What does davis bring to the table defensively? :puke  They have two s***ty starters in their rotation and their pen is thin.  They need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Not a bust who is paid one million dollar. If they really want a catcher they can sign robby hammock or brook fordyce for a minor league contract without giving up any talent whatsoever.

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Robby Hammock has to first recover from surgery on his torn labrum from last month and the D-Backs are looking to re-sign and rehabilitate him. Fordyce is nearing retirement because the only team that was interested in him was the Yankees but they wanted him to be a catcher in the minors. At least give some better examples than those two guys.

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Ben Davis is making only $1 million.

Only. Of course lets not bring in the fact that Machowiak can play 3 more different positions than Davis, and has far superior numbers. But I guess the Pirates Owner is that stingy, he's dying to save $500,000.

Only. Of course lets not bring in the fact that Machowiak can play 3 more different positions than Davis, and has far superior numbers. But I guess the Pirates Owner is that stingy, he's dying to save $500,000.

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It was a joke, duder. Take it sleazy.

Robby Hammock has to first recover from surgery on his torn labrum last month and Fordyce nearing retirement since no team is interested in him.  At least give some better examples than those two guys.

Ben Davis is NOT going to put Pittsburgh over the top, so why give up some talent for him anyways? At least Hammock when he comes back in about 3 months, will put up better numbers, and will come cheaper.

It was a joke, duder.  Take it sleazy.

Just don't forget the green font next time ok.

Robby Hammock has to first recover from surgery on his torn labrum last month and Fordyce nearing retirement since no team is interested in him.  At least give some better examples than those two guys.

 

Hammock will be ready in three months or so.

 

The Yankees offered Brook Fordyce a minor league contract, but the free agent wasn't interested in signing with a team that didn't have a major league job open for him.With no team currently looking at him as a No. 2 catcher, Fordyce could opt for retirement at age 34. However, he'll probably wait and see if injuries create a job for him this spring.

 

So basically if the pirates gave him a ring he would say yes becayse let's face it cota is nothing special. Another bad catcher ( like davis) is machado.

Ben Davis is NOT going to put Pittsburgh over the top, so why give up some talent for him anyways? At least Hammock when he comes back in about 3 months, will put up better numbers, and will come cheaper.

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By the way, I never said I expected much in a trade for just Davis. If we traded Davis we could also package guys like Willie, Borchard, Adkins, or Diaz with him.

By the way, I never said I expected much in a trade for just Davis.  If we traded Davis we could also package guys like Willie, Borchard, Adkins, or Diaz with him.

And you still wouldn't get much from him. Another team's trash isn't another's team gold unforunately.

Hammock will be ready in three months or so. 

So basically if the pirates gave him a ring he would say yes becayse let's face it cota is nothing special. Another bad catcher ( like davis) is machado.

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Robert Machado, ex-White Sox scrub catcher? Wow. Davis at least has some potential. It's not much but it's more than Machado. Machado probably isn't even starting catcher material for AAA teams.

 

And you still wouldn't get much from him. Another team's trash isn't another's team gold unforunately.

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I wouldn't call Willie or Adkins trash.

 

Remember, all it takes for a team to be interested in a guy is a hot spring, which Davis is currently having.

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Robert Machado, ex-White Sox scrub catcher?  Wow.  Davis at least has some potential.  It's not much but it's more than Machado.  Machado probably isn't even starting catcher material for AAA teams.

 

Davis will be 39 and still be liked because of his ''potential. Both machado and davis blow a little bit more so for machado.

Davis will be 39 and still be liked because of his ''potential.  Both machado and davis blow a little bit more so for machado.

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39? Ben Davis is only 28 right now. Michael Barrett was picked later than Davis in the 1st Round of the 1995 Draft and he didn't break out until last season with the Flubs. It may not be likely that Davis will break out anytime soon but it's definately within the realm of possibilities. Could you have predicted that Barrett would have a huge year last season? I doubt it.

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39?  Ben Davis is only 28 right now.

 

I smell typo

39?  Ben Davis is only 28 right now.  Michael Barrett was picked later than Davis in the 1st Round of the 1995 Draft and he didn't break out until last season with the Flubs.  It may not be likely that Davis will break out anytime soon but it's definately within the realm of possibilities.  Could you have predicted that Barrett would have a huge year last season?  I doubt it.

 

Before last year barrett hit .250 or higher three times and davis one. I did not think that barret would be as good as last year but i thought he would be better than davis. I said 39 because he is one of those players like many that people want to hold onto forever because of their ''potential''.

 

I will take widger over him anyday.

I smell typo

 

No, i said it purposely.

No, i said it purposely.

 

Knowing how good of a typer you are, I couldn't tell

Yet another mention of possibly trading Ben Davis and keeping Jamie Burke on the roster. This time it's from WhiteSox.com:

 

Davis has swung the bat well during Spring Training, hitting .333. The better the switch-hitter looks at the plate, the more interest there could be in him from other teams. That scenario opens up another possibility for Burke.

 

When the idea of trade interest in Davis was asked directly of Ken Williams, the White Sox general manager answered with a very quick "no comment." Williams then expounded on the catching situation.

 

"A.J. is the starter, and after that, me and the coaches are going to take a look at the entire situation and determine the best fit for us," Williams said. "I would say if we were leaving today, Ben would be that guy."

 

The fact that Davis has a guaranteed contract doesn't give him an advantage in Williams' mind. His overall talent is reason enough to keep Davis on the roster.

 

"Ben is a team guy," Williams said of Davis. "That's one of the reasons why the pitchers like throwing to him because they know he pays attention to what they are about and puts catching above everything else."

It seems that the key for Burke making the roster is that Buehrle loves him as his personal catcher. Afterall, with Pierzynski playing most of the time because of his bat, we don't really need Ben Davis around. Burke could just catch for Buehrle and maybe someone else every week.

 

By the way, Kenny has gotten pretty good at hyping guys up for a trade.

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Seeing how the sox need a C who can hit LHP well [to give AJ some days off] and Davis doesn't hit that well from the right side, Widger and Burke would seem to have an edge over Davis. Widger has looked great for not playing in a year. If Widger is liked by the pitching staff, and can play solid defense, he could be the guy coming north, with Burke in AAA.

According to the Baseball Cube, widger played 55 games in the Independent league in 2004 with Camden. In 202 ab's, he hit .267/.336/.574 with 16 hr's and 43 rbi's. So he just wasn't sitting at home watching Jerry springer

Trading Davis also makes sense as the Sox brought 5 catchers into camp for a reason. With AJ looking like he is going to start 110-120 games this year, there is no reason to have this many catchers in camp otherwise.

The other catcher I thought looked good when I seen him was Casanova. I know he won't have a shot at the big team but in time he may turn into something for the Sox.

I like Big Ben and he can go on hot streaks. He can also go on very cold streaks.

 

Jamie Burke is destined to be the 25th man on any roster.

 

To use Jerry Angelo's analysis:

 

Burke's floor is not that low, but his ceiling is not that high.

 

Davis' floor can be quite low, but he has the potential to have a high ceiling.

The other catcher I thought looked good when I seen him was Casanova. I know he won't have a shot at the big team but in time he may turn into something for the Sox.

 

They already reassigned Raul to the minor league camp.

They already reassigned Raul to the minor league camp.

I seen that, I was just stating that he looked to be a pretty good catching prospect and looked to be a decent hitter as well.