smalls2598 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 either last week or the week before, someone posted some career stats of buerhle vs wood. i tried searching for it, but can't come across the thread. can anyone provide me with the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Not sure where the thread is but I can provide you with some stats if you wish. These are all as of the end of last season. Wins-Loss Record: Buehrle- 69-45 Wood- 67-50 (Wood also broke into the league 2 seasons before Buehrle) Complete Games: Buehrle- 15 Wood- 11 Shutouts: Buehrle- 5 Wood- 5 Career ERA: Buehrle- 3.76 Wood- 3.63 Career ERA+ Buehrle- 125 Wood- 117 This is just a short list of stats. If you would like to compare more yourself I have the links for you. http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buehrma01.shtml - Buehrle http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/woodke02.shtml - Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Wood just lost his 51st game today. Add that to his stellar career numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:03 PM) Wood just lost his 51st game today. Add that to his stellar career numbers. Yeah, I am hoping Jesus H. Prior has similar success today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 On average, how may runs do their teams score while they're on the hill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 02:06 PM) On average, how may runs do their teams score while they're on the hill? That does have a little something to do with the amount of wins each has. Also note that Buehrle has never been on a team that finished below .500, while Wood has pitched on 2 teams that have not won 70 games. Wood has also been on teams that have won 88, 88, 89, and 90 games, while Buehrle has never been on a team that has won more then 86(unless you count 2000, and I don't even though he did pitch for the team...he started only 3 games the entire year for the Sox) So that kind of evens out. Buehrle has been the better pitcher over his career, and is making way less money. I think that is the key behind this. My favorite stat is the career K/BB's of them... Wood - 2.36 K/BB Buehrle - 2.42 K/BB Given, Buehrle is more of a control pitcher, so he should not walk as many...I just think it is a funny number...the point of a good power pitcher is to use the pitches effeciently when striking people out. Wood has not exactly done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) That does have a little something to do with the amount of wins each has. Also note that Buehrle has never been on a team that finished below .500, while Wood has pitched on 2 teams that have not won 70 games. Wood has also been on teams that have won 88, 88, 89, and 90 games, while Buehrle has never been on a team that has won more then 86(unless you count 2000, and I don't even though he did pitch for the team...he started only 3 games the entire year for the Sox) So that kind of evens out. Buehrle has been the better pitcher over his career, and is making way less money. I think that is the key behind this. My favorite stat is the career K/BB's of them... Wood - 2.36 K/BB Buehrle - 2.42 K/BB Given, Buehrle is more of a control pitcher, so he should not walk as many...I just think it is a funny number...the point of a good power pitcher is to use the pitches effeciently when striking people out. Wood has not exactly done that. I was thinking of mentioning that too Wite. The K/BB stat. I looked up some of Wood's walk numbers over a full season and they are pretty ridiculous. That along with his wild pitches and league leading hit batsmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I bet Wood has had a lot lees run support, so he has less wins but a lower ERA. To me, ERA is the thing I look at. It's neck and neck, in the long run, Mark will prove to be better, he will outlast Wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:48 PM) I bet Wood has had a lot lees run support, so he has less wins but a lower ERA. To me, ERA is the thing I look at. It's neck and neck, in the long run, Mark will prove to be better, he will outlast Wood. Mark also pitches in the A.L. where ERA always tends to be higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Mark also pitches in the A.L. where ERA always tends to be higher. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is why Buehrle's career ERA is actually better than Wood's. Wood gets to face a pitcher in the #9 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) The thread was titled "Our New Banner", from April 1st. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...31584&hl=banner Edited April 13, 2005 by Leonard Zelig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted April 13, 2005 Author Share Posted April 13, 2005 yes Leonard, thats what i was looking for. to you. and props to everyone else too. thanks for the quick replies.....i knew i could count on ya guys for it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Here's to hoping Buehrle gets to 100 wins within the next two years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) stellar career numbers. He has a stellar amount of K's, Ill give him that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:11 PM) Here's to hoping Buehrle gets to 100 wins within the next two years... I think that is well within the realm of possibility. He averages like 16 wins a year and he needs 30 between this season and next. It is certainly doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 He has a stellar amount of K's, Ill give him that much <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't forget about the walks and HBP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:22 PM) Don't forget about the walks and HBP's. So what? He obviously still strikes out a s***load of batters, making his K/BB pretty similar to Buehrle's despite Buehrle's pinpoint control. I don't know why you're making him sound so terrible. Is he as good as Buehrle? I wouldn't say so. Is he terrible? Hell no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) I was thinking of mentioning that too Wite. The K/BB stat. I looked up some of Wood's walk numbers over a full season and they are pretty ridiculous. That along with his wild pitches and league leading hit batsmen. He struck out 18! A new league record! He also walked 18. Another new league record. He also hit the batter, the mascot, the announcer and the sports writer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) So what? He obviously still strikes out a s***load of batters, making his K/BB pretty similar to Buehrle's despite Buehrle's pinpoint control. I don't know why you're making him sound so terrible. Is he as good as Buehrle? I wouldn't say so. Is he terrible? Hell no... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did I ever say that Wood was terrible? Please show me where I said that. The fact is that Wood is overrated. By the way, do you try to dissect each and every one of my posts and try to prove me wrong? Keep trying. Grudges are for losers. Edited April 13, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Did I ever say that Wood was terrible? Please show me where I said that. The fact is that Wood is overrated. By the way, do you try to dissect each and every one of my posts and try to prove me wrong? Keep trying. Grudges are for losers. Dissecting each of your posts? No. I saw you harping on it in the other thread in "Around the Horn", and I was gonna comment on it in one of the two, just happened to be here. b**** b**** b****... :rolly Your comments just sounded like you think he's terrible. No, you never said he's terrible, but that just seemed to come off that way -- such as putting "stellar career numbers" in green. If I misunderstood you, say so, and I apologize. Why exactly would I have the grudge again? For what reason? Remember, you were the one who PM'ed me, not vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) Which is why Buehrle's career ERA is actually better than Wood's. Wood gets to face a pitcher in the #9 spot. On average, how many times per game does a pitcher hit in the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Have you watched Wood's first two starts of this season? They were both pretty awful. The guy is wild as hell and he hits at least one batter every outing. At times, he can't even find the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) On average, how many times per game does a pitcher hit in the NL? I'd say four, but that just an estimated guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I'd say four, but that just an estimated guess... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's less because of pinch-hitters. But does it matter? If the DH in the A.L. doesn't affect pitchers, why do most baseball analysts say that there is around a 1 run difference in pitchers' ERAs when going from the N.L. to the A.L.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) It's less because of pinch-hitters. But does it matter? If the DH in the A.L. doesn't affect pitchers, why do most baseball analysts say that there is around a 1 run difference in pitchers' ERAs when going from the N.L. to the A.L.? It is not a full run different from the the n.l. to the a.l. It is more like half a run. Some pitchers more some pitchers less but it all equals out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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