April 20, 200520 yr Any one else cringe when they see this thread? Wasn't it off the first page for a while? :headshake
May 17, 200520 yr Author Regarding the Astros thingy, see where it says "right now". ================ Back to the topic, Castilla: 0.307 BA; 4 HRs; 23 RBI; 0.385 OBP; 0.504 SLG in 36 games/127 ABs Cruddy: 0.262 BA; 3 HRs; 15 RBI; 0.329 OBP; 0.397 SLG in 39 games/126 ABs Yeah, Castilla can only hit in Coors field
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 17, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) Regarding the Astros thingy, see where it says "right now". ================ Back to the topic, Castilla: 0.307 BA; 4 HRs; 23 RBI; 0.385 OBP; 0.504 SLG in 36 games/127 ABs Cruddy: 0.262 BA; 3 HRs; 15 RBI; 0.329 OBP; 0.397 SLG in 39 games/126 ABs Yeah, Castilla can only hit in Coors field What's Crede hitting since this thread was made? What's Castilla hitting since this thread was made? oops.
May 17, 200520 yr okay, it's further of a spread than I thought... .240 Crede .270 Castilla but still. Castilla isn't exactly hitting the cover off the ball like he started out doing.
May 17, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ May 17, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) What's Crede hitting since this thread was made? What's Castilla hitting since this thread was made? oops. So you only want to look at selective data from the season? Do you even realize Castilla has better #s everywhere vs Crede and he has played 3 less games?
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Apr 15, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) That pen will never succeed without a lefty too!! We better get Billy Wagner too....Better resurrect Lefty Grove while we are getting Ruth too Babe Ruth could double as OF and lefty out of the pen!!!!! It makes as much sense as anything else in this thread.
May 17, 200520 yr Author I am still willing to wait until AS break and see if Crede can even hit >0.280 overall until then.... The guy swings at everything low and down in the zone. It is terrible. He either does not make contact or he pops it up....not to mention all of those swings are with the intention of pulling the ball for a HR
May 17, 200520 yr I am still willing to wait until AS break and see if Crede can even hit >0.280 overall until then.... The guy swings at everything low and down in the zone. It is terrible. He either does not make contact or he pops it up....not to mention all of those swings are with the intention of pulling the ball for a HR <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But if he started hitting well it would take all the fun out of saying "Credepopsitup" when he fails.
May 17, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ May 17, 2005 -> 07:28 PM) okay, it's further of a spread than I thought... .240 Crede .270 Castilla but still. Castilla isn't exactly hitting the cover off the ball like he started out doing. Is he better than Cruddy? Check Does this team badly need more offense? Check Is this team trying to win a world series? Check Does Cruddy need some competition? Check Does Cruddy even seem to give a damn at the plate looking at his horrible swings? Check
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 17, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Is he better than Cruddy? Check Does this team badly need more offense? Check Is this team trying to win a world series? Check Does Cruddy need some competition? Check Does Cruddy even seem to give a damn at the plate looking at his horrible swings? Check You seem to be under the impression that the nationals would take either nothing or next to nothing. Since April 15th, Crede has 26 hits and Castilla has 28 hits. Yeah, you're right. We really needed those two hits badly enough to give up something to get them.
May 17, 200520 yr Get Herbert Perry!!!!!!!!!!! Its about as likely as Castilla <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would actually take the Milkman's bat over Cruddy's right now. He is a free agent, isn't he? Crede's defense at 3rd base is his only saving grace right now.
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) I would actually take the Milkman's bat over Cruddy's right now. He is a free agent, isn't he? Crede's defense at 3rd base is his only saving grace right now. Crede has done ok by me, he makes some serious plays that he makes look easy, and I dont think we appreciate it enough. If he can get on another streak and hit around 270, thats perfect.
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 17, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) Crede has done ok by me, he makes some serious plays that he makes look easy, and I dont think we appreciate it enough. If he can get on another streak and hit around 270, thats perfect.
May 17, 200520 yr I'd rather have Crede then trade away our prosepcts for Castilla, a guy in his upper 30's. What happened to Castilla in '02 and '03. 12 and 22 HR's with 61 and 76 RBI's and 232 and 271 BA. Only having 30 less AB's in '02 and '03 then he did in '04. If we're going to get a bat, we need someone who is going to hit .300+.
May 17, 200520 yr Isn't Castilla hitting better than Eric Chavez, too? I think Beane is going to try and make a deal for Castilla any day now... (And yes, I realize that Crede/Chavez aren't in the same league as far as third-sackers. But, I think it's comical judging a guy off of 127 ABs...)
May 17, 200520 yr Isn't Castilla hitting better than Eric Chavez, too? I think Beane is going to try and make a deal for Castilla any day now... (And yes, I realize that Crede/Chavez aren't in the same league as far as third-sackers. But, I think it's comical judging a guy off of 127 ABs...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Crede isn't even in the same league as Herbert Perry as far as hitting goes. I can't believe you are even questioning the fact that Castilla is a far better hitter than Crede, Coors or no Coors. Edited May 17, 200520 yr by Jabroni
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 08:48 PM) Crede isn't even in the same league as Herbert Perry as far as hitting goes. I can't believe you are even questioning the fact that Castilla is a far better hitter than Crede, Coors or no Coors. Alright, Castilla is a wee bit better offensively, not to make much of a difference, though. Castilla is a career 96 OPS+ to Crede's 89. Factor in the better defender -- Crede -- as well as comparing what the two of them make -- Crede makes less than a million (IIRC), and Castilla makes at least two million -- as well as what we'd have to give up to get Castilla (if we gave anything of value, it would be the Nats winning the deal). Plus, the age factor, and I'll take Crede.
May 17, 200520 yr You guys do know that Washington is 21-17 and the best story in baseball right? Can't see them trading a middle-of-the-order hitter. They will contend until at least July in my opinion
May 17, 200520 yr Alright, Castilla is a wee bit better offensively, not to make much of a difference, though. Castilla is a career 96 OPS+ to Crede's 89. Factor in the better defender -- Crede -- as well as comparing what the two of them make -- Crede makes less than a million (IIRC), and Castilla makes at least two million -- as well as what we'd have to give up to get Castilla (if we gave anything of value, it would be the Nats winning the deal). Plus, the age factor, and I'll take Crede. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A wee bit better offensively? LOL. Do you think Crede will ever even sniff a .281 career AVG, 307 homers, and, 1035 RBI's? Puhleeze. You can say it's mainly because of Coors Field but Crede has also had the benefit of playing at Coors East. Last year, the Cell was even more of a hitter's park than Coors. Crede also has the advantage of playing his home games in a hitter's park but has never had a season as good as some of Castilla's. Edited May 17, 200520 yr by Jabroni
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) A wee bit better offensively? LOL. Do you think Crede will ever even sniff a .281 career AVG, 307 homers, and, 1035 RBI's? Puhleeze. You can say it's mainly because of Coors Field but Crede has also had the benefit of playing at Coors East. Last year, the Cell was even more of a hitter's park than Coors. OPS+ is park adjusted... He really isn't that great. He's spent over half of his years at Coors, and a 96 OPS+ is worse than average... Baseball-reference has Coors Field's park factor at 120, as opposed to US Cellular's at 107... Edited May 17, 200520 yr by CWSGuy406
May 17, 200520 yr OPS+ is park adjusted... He really isn't that great. He's spent over half of his years at Coors, and a 96 OPS+ is worse than average... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Keep looking at those obscure stats instead of using your eyes. Castilla is a much better hitter than Crede is or will ever be. I can't believe we are even arguing this. Notice, I haven't mentioned defense because Crede's is better than Castilla's.
May 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) Keep looking at those obscure stats instead of using your eyes. Castilla is a much better hitter than Crede is or will ever be. I can't believe we are even arguing this. Notice, I haven't mentioned defense because Crede's is better than Castilla's. Oh, ok. So now OPS+ is an obscure stat because it evens out all the parks? Mmk. I think Ozuna's Hustle needs some lovin...
May 17, 200520 yr Oh, ok. So now OPS+ is an obscure stat because it evens out all the parks? Mmk. I think Ozuna's Hustle needs some lovin... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One question -- do you think Crede could ever hit .319 AVG / .362 OBP / .589 SLG with 46 HR's and 144 RBI's playing in Coors Field? If you say yes, you are a liar.
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