July 1, 200520 yr Wow. I truly felt Rehnquist would be the first to retire, but this was suspected for some time now.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) Neocons sobbing with joy, Christmas in July. Actually, they're not. They wanted her to stick around. I'm surprised by this.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) Actually, they're not. They wanted her to stick around. I'm surprised by this. Oh, so presumably they'll replace her w/ another swing vote, right?
July 1, 200520 yr Author You think Congress hates each other now? Wait until after these confirmation hearings...
July 1, 200520 yr William Kristol called this last week, apparently. He also predicted that Alberto Gonzales will be her replacement. And his complaint about Gonzales is that, even though he's more conservative than O'Connor, he's still not conservative enough. So I'm pretty certain the neocons do not want O'Connor on the court. If you mean they wanted her to stay for some reasons of political chess, that I don't know.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) You think Congress hates each other now? Wait until after these confirmation hearings... Yep. The s***'s gonna hit the fan now.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) You think Congress hates each other now? Wait until after these confirmation hearings... By the end of this process, Americans of all stripes will be ashamed of our elected officials. Sad. Bush will know which nominees will pass with little or no objections, those that could pass with a lot of objection, and those that have slim to no chance. I'm afraid my fellow Texan is going to pick from the slim chance category.
July 1, 200520 yr NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 1, 200520 yr Author To anyone in the know... Are their any conservative females would could be picked since it is specifically a female that is stepping down?
July 1, 200520 yr Damn -- now what am I going to do with that sweet yet stern looking Sandra Day O'Connor telephone? /simpsons Everybody strap yourself in and get ready for some Borking. Two of the most important Constitutional debates of our lifetime taking place this year (the sunset provisions of the Patriot Act/introduction of the SAFE Act and the nomination of a new SC justice.
July 1, 200520 yr This is not going to be a fun summer to watch the news... And man alive...she had to retire on a day where the Daily Show is on Hiatus...
July 1, 200520 yr A Female or a Hispanic Male. The one thing that they will have in common is that they will not be widely published. The Bush Administration will look for the most conservative person it can find that does not have a long paper trail of conservative decisions, papers, books or articles. A sad historic note, that in todays political world we do pick the most legally qualified people, but those that have the least possibility of being fillibustered. Advise and Consent is dead. This is not a right or a left thing, both sides are to blame.
July 1, 200520 yr If Bush nominates a moderate to slightly conservative, he'll have my respect and admiration. If he goes neanderthal, juts out his jaw, and plays wild west sheriff, I will not be happy. Bottom line, if conservatives and liberals are disappointed, it's about right.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:00 PM) If Bush nominates a moderate to slightly conservative, he'll have my respect and admiration. If he goes neanderthal, juts out his jaw, and plays wild west sheriff, I will not be happy. Bottom line, if conservatives and liberals are disappointed, it's about right. Prepare to not be happy.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) Prepare to not be happy. Be prepared, the Boy Scout motto
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) If Bush nominates a moderate to slightly conservative, he'll have my respect and admiration. If he goes neanderthal, juts out his jaw, and plays wild west sheriff, I will not be happy. Bottom line, if conservatives and liberals are disappointed, it's about right. Alberto Gonzalez would probably make both sides pretty unhappy, and that should scare you.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:09 PM) Alberto Gonzalez would probably make both sides pretty unhappy, and that should scare you. I would hope that this doesn't happen. Like I said on another board... I don't care if Bush puts a liberal judge up for nomination, the Dems are gonna rip this person a new asshole just for the press coverage. That's what's bull s*** about our system. And the Repblicans will fight just as hard, all for the press coverage. Bunch of power tripping bastards. That's all they ALL are. Edited July 1, 200520 yr by kapkomet
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) Like I said on another board... I don't care if Bush puts a liberal judge up for nomination, the Dems are gonna rip this person a new asshole just for the press coverage. That's what's bull s*** about our system. I'll be shocked and amazed if that happens. Absolutely stunned. Hell, I'll be stunned if the nominee can even remotely be called a "moderate".
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) I'll be shocked and amazed if that happens. Absolutely stunned. Hell, I'll be stunned if the nominee can even remotely be called a "moderate". It makes perfect sense that Bush replace a conservative judge with a conservative judge. He'll do the same when the chief justice finally retires as well.
July 1, 200520 yr QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) It makes perfect sense that Bush replace a conservative judge with a conservative judge. He'll do the same when the chief justice finally retires as well. I wouldn't call her conservative. I'd call her a moderate swing vote.
July 2, 200520 yr O'Connor could be viewed as an economic conservative but a left-leaning social moderate. Bush will seek to replace her with a social conservative. It's why he was elected in to a 2nd term so it will be hard for the Dem to block it. Bush should choose a black female for the bench. It will be hard for the Dems to block her because they still have egg on their faces from their treatment of Thomas & how it was perceived by the media & the citzenry. It looked like a bunch of affluent white guys picking on accomplished educated black man. They won't have a prayer against a black female of equal or greater stature.
July 2, 200520 yr QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) If Bush nominates a moderate to slightly conservative, he'll have my respect and admiration. If he goes neanderthal, juts out his jaw, and plays wild west sheriff, I will not be happy. Bottom line, if conservatives and liberals are disappointed, it's about right. My guess is he'll first try and run a very staunch conservative through and will than "compromise" by pushing a more moderate conservative, who will probably be the guy he originally wanted or selected but will use the other guy to at least show some sort of effort of compromising. Thats what I'd do at least.
July 2, 200520 yr QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) My guess is he'll first try and run a very staunch conservative through and will than "compromise" by pushing a more moderate conservative, who will probably be the guy he originally wanted or selected but will use the other guy to at least show some sort of effort of compromising. Thats what I'd do at least. That's not in Bush's character at all. If he nominates someone, he doesn't want to backtrack no matter what happens. Take a look at the Bolton nomination...he's clearly a guy who doesn't deserve that job, he's totally unqualified, even in a Republican led Senate Committee he couldn't get an endorsement for his nomination, but Bush is still pushing him. And withholding information to protect him.
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