I like it.

 

Sure El Duque was a clutch guy in the playoffs with a cool leg kick but c'mon dumping his salary is huge and he would not help us significantly anyway.

 

Vizcaino was the last RH out of the pen and is replacable to say the very least.

 

Chris Young, now that's a loss that hurts.

 

I still like it.

 

Although it may depend on what KW turns Garland into.

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by WHarris1

So is our rotation now the Killer J's?

 

Javier

Jon

Jose

Killer Js... good... I like the deal If we do deal Garland for some relief pitchers and all other deals from that point forward could we start getting some high grade prospects back. If we don't get prospects back KW will look brilliant for a while but down the road we'll have to buy players. WE will have no one in our farm system like the yankees and cubs.

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by forrestg

I like it.

 

Sure El Duque was a clutch guy in the playoffs with a cool leg kick but c'mon dumping his salary is huge and he would not help us significantly anyway.

 

Vizcaino was the last RH out of the pen and is replacable to say the very least.

 

Chris Young, now that's a loss that hurts.

 

I still like it.

 

Although it may depend on what KW turns Garland into.

hopefully a contract extension

Killer Js... good... I like the deal  If we do deal Garland for some relief pitchers and all other deals from that point forward could we start getting some  high grade prospects back.  If we don't get prospects back KW will look brilliant for a while but down the  road we'll have to buy  players will have  no one in our farm system like the yankees and cubs. 

i am gonna make a sig with that. Garland, Vazquez, and Contreras.

So is our rotation now the Killer J's?

 

Javier

Jon

Jose

 

 

 

Nah...let's stay away from that and any Houston "Killer" take-offs.

I agree and disagree. I know they have REAL high expectations of Anderson, but what if? What if he doesnt pan out? Ownes is fast, but has no power. Sweeney has no power or speed. young has both power (i was suprise to read he had 20+ HRs last year) and speed.

 

 

EXACTLY!! You don't give up players with the caliber of Young 26 Homers 42 doubles and 30 steals. Wow Az got them selves a good one.

EXACTLY!!  You don't give up players with the caliber of Young 26 Homers 42 doubles and 30 steals.  Wow Az got them selves a good one.

Joe Borchard had great numbers in the Minors. Young is a prospect and prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.

I voted "I'll wait and see", but I'm leaning toward "Terrible Trade"

Joe Borchard had great numbers in the Minors.  Young is a prospect and prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.

Comparing prospects is like comparing apples and oranges. Each one is different..

Joe Borchard had great numbers in the Minors.  Young is a prospect and prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.

You can't just throw Borchard's name out there forever. There has to be a real comparison before you use his name.

With yankees/dbacks, Vazquez is 3-0 against the white sox over the last 2 years giving up 5 runs in 24 innings over 3 starts.

Joe Borchard had great numbers in the Minors.  Young is a prospect and prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.

 

I have seen CY all year long and let me tell you he and Borchard are not even in the same league. Power, Speed, Defense the complete package.

I'm starting to notice a pretty bothersome trend, however.

 

If some aren't careful, they are going to find themselves in the Billy Beane...er...I mean...Kenny Williams can not do any wrong camp.

 

Once you find yourself in that camp, it's awfully hard to move away.

You can't just throw Borchard's name out there forever. There has to be a real comparison before you use his name.

Borchard had pretty good speed when he was in the Minors. He had monster power (still has that) and hit for a good average. What about Olivo? He was supposed to be the next Pudge Rodriguez. Never happened. Jeremy Reed?

this deal really shows the sox' intolerence of Scott Boras-Garland's agent. I heard the sox initally offered a 3 yr 24 mil deal, and boras and garland declined. Also, How good is Chris Young? Who would be his MLB comparison? From what i heard he sounds like juan pierre.

this deal really shows the sox' intolerence of Scott Boras-Garland's agent. I heard the sox initally offered a 3 yr 24 mil deal, and boras and garland declined. Also, How good is Chris Young? Who would be his MLB comparison? From what i heard he sounds like juan pierre.

 

Borass isn't Garland's agent... It is Craig Landis, who is also PKs agent.

Borchard had pretty good speed when he was in the Minors.  He had monster power (still has that) and hit for a good average.  What about Olivo?  He was supposed to be the next Pudge Rodriguez.  Never happened.  Jeremy Reed?

They are different people. Different prospects. Different talents. Completely different.

 

And Reed did well last year for a rooke in Safeco.. whats your point?

this deal really shows the sox' intolerence of Scott Boras-Garland's agent. I heard the sox initally offered a 3 yr 24 mil deal, and boras and garland declined. Also, How good is Chris Young? Who would be his MLB comparison? From what i heard he sounds like juan pierre.

Boras is Crede's agent though.

From what i heard he sounds like juan pierre.

Who told you that? Young is close to being a 30/30 guy.. Pierre is a 5/60 guy.

How good is Chris Young? Who would be his MLB comparison? From what i heard he sounds like juan pierre.

 

Are you kidding? Chris Young hit more homeruns last year than Pierre has hit in his whole career.

They are different people.  Different prospects.  Different talents.  Completely different.

 

And Reed did well last year for a rooke in Safeco.. whats your point?

141 488 61 124 33 3 3 45 12 .254 .322 .352

Not great stats. Also Olivo was supposed to be the next best catcher in baseball.

141 488 61 124 33 3 3 45 12 .254 .322 .352

Not great stats.

Look at his away splits. Then look at his defense. Then look at the fact that he was a rookie.

141 488 61 124 33 3 3 45 12 .254 .322 .352

Not great stats.  Also Olivo was supposed to be the next best catcher in baseball.

 

 

I just have to ask have you seen Chris Young play a game?

I just have to ask have you seen Chris Young play a game?

in Spring Training. I was impressed however like I said there is no guarantee that he will be a great Major League Player.

I just have to ask have you seen Chris Young play a game?

Tell them bhambarons! Losing Young will hurt. There is no denying that.