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all-big ten teams out

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here you go:

 

Coaches

FIRST TEAM

James Augustine, Illinois

Dee Brown, Illinois

Greg Brunner, Iowa

Terence Dials, Ohio State

ALANDO TUCKER, Wisconsin

 

SECOND TEAM

SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St.

Paul Davis, Michigan State

Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State

Daniel Horton, Michigan

Vedran Vukusic, Northwestern

 

THIRD TEAM

Maurice Ager, Michigan State

GEARY CLAXTON, Penn State#

Vincent Grier, Minnesota#

ADAM HALUSKA, Iowa#

Jeff Horner, Iowa

Marco Killingsworth, Indiana

 

HONORABLE MENTION

JAMAR BUTLER, Ohio State

KAMMRON TAYLOR, Wisconsin

ROBERT VADEN, Indiana

 

ALL-FRESHMAN TEAM

JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State

JOE KRABBENHOFT, Wisconsin

CHRIS LUTZ, Purdue

CRAIG MOORE, Northwestern

JAMAR SMITH, Illinois

 

ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM

SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St.

Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State

Mohamed Hachad, Northwestern

Erek Hansen, Iowa

BRIAN RANDLE, Illinois

 

PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

Terence Dials, Ohio State

 

DEFENSIVE PLAYER

OF THE YEAR:

Erek Hansen, Iowa

 

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR:

JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State

 

SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR:

Doug Thomas, Iowa

# tie

 

As selected by Big Ten media

(players names in ALL CAPS have 2006-07 eligibility)

 

FIRST TEAM

Dee Brown, Illinois

Greg Brunner, Iowa

Terence Dials, Ohio State

Daniel Horton, Michigan

ALANDO TUCKER, Wisconsin

 

SECOND TEAM

Maurice Ager, Michigan State

James Augustine, Illinois

SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St.

Paul Davis, Michigan State

Marco Killingsworth, Indiana

 

THIRD TEAM

JAMAR BUTLER, Ohio State

GEARY CLAXTON, Penn State

Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State

Jeff Horner, Iowa

Vedran Vukusic, Northwestern

 

HONORABLE MENTION

Vincent Grier, Minnesota

ADAM HALUSKA, Iowa

Matt Kiefer, Purdue

KAMMRON TAYLOR, Wisconsin

ROBERT VADEN, Indiana

 

PLAYER OF THE YEAR:

Terence Dials, Ohio State

 

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR:

JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State

 

COACH OF THE YEAR:

Thad Matta, Ohio State

 

Big Ten Sportsmanship Award Honorees

Dee Brown, Illinois; Marshall Strickland, Indiana; Adam Haluska, Iowa; Graham Brown, Michigan; Maurice Ager, Michigan State; Adam Boone, Minnesota; Michael Jenkins, Northwestern; Je'Kel Foster, Ohio State; Mike Walker, Penn State; Bryant Dillon, Purdue

Vukusic should have been a first teamer.

Ohio State taking home player and coach of the year

Nice to see Grier get a mention :)

Told everyone Hansen would be defensive player of the year.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 02:28 PM)
Told everyone Hansen would be defensive player of the year.

Doesn't mean he is most deserving. :P

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 10:42 AM)
Vukusic should have been a first teamer.

 

Over who exactly? They 5 guys they selected are better than Vukusic.

How the hell does Dee Brown not get on the all-defensive team?

QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:53 PM)
Over who exactly?  They 5 guys they selected are better than Vukusic.

He had a better than Augustine of Illinois.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:30 PM)
How the hell does Dee Brown not get on the all-defensive team?

I believe Big Ten players voted him best defensive player in the conference.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:31 PM)
He had a better than Augustine of Illinois.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the fact Northwestern is so bad is the reason he didn't get 1st team.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:31 PM)
He had a better than Augustine of Illinois.

 

Different positions? Different systems? Vukusic runs in a Princeton offense, he's the main target. He doesn't rebound or play effective D, Augustine does both and still scored. I think the guys that got screwed were the Michigan State guys minus Paul Davis (who's the biggest whiniest b**** in the Big 10 according to the SI players poll :D ). Ager> Tucker, Shannon Brown > Tucker.

Hell of a Job Buckeyes!! Most deserving and I think the awards run true.

Ager, Brown, Tucker comparison

 

Ager (G): PPG 19.1 | APG 2.6 | RPG 4.2

 

Brown (G): PPG 18.2 | APG 2.7 | RPG 4.4

 

Tucker (F): PPG 18.9 | APG 1.7 | RPG 5.7

 

Its hard to argue Tucker doesnt deserve to be there with his ppg and rpg, especially compared to Augie and Brunner:

 

Brunner (F) PPG 14.2 | APG 1.8 | RPG 9.7

 

Augie (F) PPG 13.4 | APG 1.9 | RPG 9.1

 

Dials (F-C) PPG 15.3 | APG .6 | RPG 8.0

 

D. Brown (G) PPG 14.7 | APG 5.6 | RPG 2.9

 

Its all pretty close when looking at these players. My opinion is they made sure Tucker was there because he is basically the entire Wisconsin team and every game Wisconsin plays the teams first and last goal is: Stop Tucker.

 

I think it would just be hard to drop Tucker who is clearly the top player on his team.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 04:34 PM)
I believe Big Ten players voted him best defensive player in the conference.

HUH. Hansen was best defensive player in the conference.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:13 PM)
HUH.  Hansen was best defensive player in the conference.

On the court less than half of the game. 19 minutes.

 

EDIT: Not trying to discount or disrespect Hansen's ability to change the game by altering shots in the paint.

Edited by WHarris1

BTW, how exactly did Graham Brown make the All-Sportsmanship award?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 10:13 PM)
HUH.  Hansen was best defensive player in the conference.

 

There was a poll of the players in SI where the players voted on various categories, and Dee Brown was elected the best defensive player by a fairly large margin.

 

I personally didn't have a problem with Vedran not making the first team, but he's not totally one-dimensional either. He's a great scorer, but it's hard to really judge his defense and rebounding fairly based on the defense NU plays. Their 1-3-1 zone makes it hard for them to rebound, and there's no one really attacking the basket on offense. He's also a solid passer. You can't really credit his scoring to the offense either, since it's main purpose is to spread the floor and use multiple options. They don't constantly run plays for him and he still puts up the great numbers.

 

Personally I would have put Horton on the 1st team over Brunner. Horton had a great year, and frankly I wasn't all that impressed with Brunner.

Edited by ZoomSlowik

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 08:03 PM)
There was a poll of the players in SI where the players voted on various categories, and Dee Brown was elected the best defensive player by a fairly large margin.

 

I personally didn't have a problem with Vedran not making the first team, but he's not totally one-dimensional either. He's a great scorer, but it's hard to really judge his defense and rebounding fairly based on the defense NU plays. Their 1-3-1 zone makes it hard for them to rebound, and there's no one really attacking the basket on offense. He's also a solid passer. You can't really credit his scoring to the offense either, since it's main purpose is to spread the floor and use multiple options. They don't constantly run plays for him and he still puts up the great numbers.

 

Personally I would have put Horton on the 1st team over Brunner. Horton had a great year, and frankly I wasn't all that impressed with Brunner.

How are you replacing a PF in Brunner with a guard in Horton?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:00 AM)
How are you replacing a PF in Brunner with a guard in Horton?

 

Because there are 4 forwards on the first team and only one guard. Brunner happens to be the one I'd drop out of him, Tucker, Dials, and Augustine.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:03 PM)
Because there are 4 forwards on the first team and only one guard. Brunner happens to be the one I'd drop out of him, Tucker, Dials, and Augustine.

Brunner played superior to Augestine. I realize Augestine is more talented but I'm not dropping Brunner before Augestine.

 

Brunner led the conference in rebounding and did a good job on the scoring end as well. I know he'll never play professionally, but the guy deserved his nomination.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:04 AM)
Brunner played superior to Augestine.  I realize Augestine is more talented but I'm not dropping Brunner before Augestine. 

 

Brunner led the conference in rebounding and did a good job on the scoring end as well.  I know he'll never play professionally, but the guy deserved his nomination.

 

I'm personally dropping him because he shoots for a much lower percentage than the other forwards and from what I've seen he isn't a big factor on the defensive end. Plus his rebounding edge isn't that big (unless you count Vedran). I'd put him as a second-teamer with Davis, Vedran, Shannon Brown, and Foster (yeah, I know, no PG). I got nothing against him and I think he's a decent player, I just don't think he's as good as those other guys.

Edited by ZoomSlowik

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:11 PM)
I'm personally dropping him because he shoots for a much lower percentage than the other forwards and from what I've seen he isn't a big factor on the defensive end. Plus his rebounding edge isn't that big (unless you count Vedran). I'd put him as a second-teamer with Davis, Vedran, Shannon Brown, and Foster (yeah, I know, no PG). I got nothing against him and I think he's a decent player, I just don't think he's as good as those other guys.

Your right. He shot a lower % than Augestine, but he scored about a ppg better while grabbing down .6 boards a game better. Obviously its close, but Brunner played far more consistent night in/night out than Augestine (who seemed to have quite a few games where he would dissapear with foul trouble).

Also, just because we are debating all conference players. I think it should be noted that Brunner scored 14.4 a game in conference to the 12.5 by Augestine in conference play. Rebounding margin stayed almost the same (9.6 to 8.9)

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