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GOP Primaries/Candidates thread

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It appears to be official...McCain is going to maneuver his way out of the federal matching funds system for the primaries to get himself out of the pre-convention spending limits.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 04:07 PM)
It appears to be official...McCain is going to maneuver his way out of the federal matching funds system for the primaries to get himself out of the pre-convention spending limits.

 

:huh

Hutchison (R-TX) Endorses McCain

 

I think this endorsement is particularly salient b/c she could be an ideal running mate for McCain to choose. She has publicly stated she is not seeking re-election in 2010, Texas has a solidly conservative Governor to name her successor, and she's a conservative woman that can balance the ticket a little more.

QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 07:47 PM)
Hutchison (R-TX) Endorses McCain

 

I think this endorsement is particularly salient b/c she could be an ideal running mate for McCain to choose. She has publicly stated she is not seeking re-election in 2010, Texas has a solidly conservative Governor to name her successor, and she's a conservative woman that can balance the ticket a little more.

 

 

I think she would be considered too liberal to run with McCain. The far right wingers would go completely insane with rage. She basically has the same problems, with the same people, as McCain.

 

from the article:

 

Hutchison has had some disagreements with conservative Republicans. She's been criticized for her support of legalized abortions, embryonic stem cell research, her vote in favor of a children's health insurance bill that President Bush vetoed and recently for changes to a law requiring a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 06:57 PM)
I think she would be considered too liberal to run with McCain. The far right wingers would go completely insane with rage. She basically has the same problems, with the same people, as McCain.

 

from the article:

 

Hutchison has had some disagreements with conservative Republicans. She's been criticized for her support of legalized abortions, embryonic stem cell research, her vote in favor of a children's health insurance bill that President Bush vetoed and recently for changes to a law requiring a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border.

And, let's face it, if the Republicans need to pick a person from Texas to carry that state, then we'll be putting McCain and Mondale in the same sentence from now on.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 05:16 PM)
:huh

 

I guess it means that McCain only really supports campaign finance reform if it doesn't apply to him.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 08:57 PM)
from the article:

 

Hutchison has had some disagreements with conservative Republicans. She's been criticized for her support of legalized abortions

 

I do question the validity of that assertion from the writer of the article.

 

Evidence:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00337

 

She was one of 47 Senators who felt that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturned. Eh, I really don't know what the hell the far right wants. I wonder if McCain/Bauer would pass muster with those people.

 

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 09:43 PM)
I guess it means that McCain only really supports campaign finance reform if it doesn't apply to him.

 

But is what he's doing against the finance reform rules (seriously, i don't know)? How much has Clinton or Obama spent? I think the campaign finance reform he pushed was a big mistake.

QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 10:16 PM)
Eh, I really don't know what the hell the far right wants. I wonder if McCain/Bauer would pass muster with those people.

 

Yea, I have no idea either.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 09:43 PM)
I guess it means that McCain only really supports campaign finance reform if it doesn't apply to him.

 

I guess when you tout yourself as

 

the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold's (D-WI) tough bill to reform the presidential public financing system.

 

You should probably use public funding for you campaign financing right? Oops.

 

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 09:43 PM)
I guess it means that McCain only really supports campaign finance reform if it doesn't apply to him.

 

I guess when you tout yourself as

 

the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold's (D-WI) tough bill to reform the presidential public financing system.

 

You should probably use public funding for you campaign financing right? Oops.

 

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/

Wait, so Obama is going back on his word, or are you talking about McCain?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 08:27 AM)
Wait, so Obama is going back on his word, or are you talking about McCain?

 

Its an indictment of both of them honestly. They are all saying one thing and doing another. For McCain to be singled out here is pretty narrowly focused.

Oh, so Obama is just as dirty as the rest? He's not a saint in politics? Surely, you jest!

 

The law stinks. But since McCain is the one whose name is on the damn bill, the least he could do is follow his own law, the bastard.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 07:07 AM)
Oh, so Obama is just as dirty as the rest? He's not a saint in politics? Surely, you jest!

 

The law stinks. But since McCain is the one whose name is on the damn bill, the least he could do is follow his own law, the bastard.

I don't mind either of them opting out of the system, the system as it stands is total garbage and this only helps hasten its reform.

 

The thing I mind is that McCain got himself set up for the best of both worlds. He took out a loan late last year to pay for his campaign after accepting the matching funds. But because he didn't use the matching funds as collateral for the loan, he's able to sneak out of the matching funds now that he won the nomination.

 

So basically, had he not won the nomination, he was going to use the matching funds to pay off his campaign debt. And if he won the nomination, he left himself enough wiggle room to get out of the spending requirements before he was locked in so that he could take advantage of the fundraising windfall the candidate would get. So he has the best of both worlds...if he loses, the government pays off the loans for him, and if he wins he's still able to avoid the spending limits.

 

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John McCain is officially one of the WORST speech givers ever. Seriously, every time I hear him give a speech he sounds flat, dull, and boring. it sounds like he is reading an audiobook of his biography or something. Blah!

John McCain just said "I'm Fired Up and Ready to Go". HAHAHAHA!!!

Dude, get your own catch phrase.

I turned on FOX news about 3 hours ago and they all they talked about was how Huckabee got a huge win in the primaries today. I turn off the TV.

 

Just turned on CNN and find out McCain trounced Huckabee... Nice call on that one, FOX.

Texan for McCain, oh yeah, he was President also.

 

President George H. W. Bush Endorses John McCain

At a press conference in Houston today, former President George H.W. Bush endorsed John McCain for president. President Bush made the following statement on his endorsement:

 

"Today we are living in a time of war, a new and vastly more complex time of war. We also have more important challenges at home, chief among them, we clearly need to address those parts of our economy that demand attention. And at this critical time in history, the key point I want to make is the United States of America cannot be permitted to falter. Part of our Republican creed is a prevailing sense of duty. In the coming election, we do not have the luxury of taking a pass on our unique role and responsibilities in the world. And the indisputable fact that unites the greatest number of Republicans, most independents and many good Democrats is the fact that no one is better prepared to lead our nation at these trying times than Senator John McCain.

 

"As someone who also helped lead our great Party at the RNC and later as President, I believe now is the right time for me to help John in his effort to start building the broad-based coalition it will take for our conservative values to carry the White House this fall. His character was forged in the crucible of war. His commitment to America is beyond any doubt. But most importantly, he has the right values and experience to guide our nation forward at this historic moment. So I am very proud to endorse John McCain for the presidency for the United States of America. Few men walking among us have sacrificed so much in the cause of human freedom, and I am happy to help this remarkable patriot carry our Party's banner forward."

 

Support John McCain!Support John McCain!

Support John McCain!

 

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lol

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 03:17 PM)
jb.jpg

 

lol

That is so wrong

Yeah, these folks are still voting too. Time.com exit poll details.

Among Republicans:

 

Among very conservative voters: Huckabee 50%, McCain 40%

Among conservative voters: Huckabee 45%, McCain 45%

Among all Republicans:McCain’s issue positions are: About right– 48%, Not conservative enough– 44%, Too conservative– 6%

Talk-radio listeners: McCain 56%, Huckabee 32%

Best to beat the Democrat: McCain 82%, Huckabee 11%

In his speech tonight, John McCain referenced an "eloquent but empty call for change" several times.

 

Get used to that slogan folks. We've got almost 9 months of it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 08:44 PM)
In his speech tonight, John McCain referenced an "eloquent but empty call for change" several times.

 

Get used to that slogan folks. We've got almost 9 months of it.

 

Actually, I thought it was a good speech. Better than Obama's speech for the first time. Barrack's delivery and constant 'change' stuff is getting a bit stale.

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