Is Crede a better thirdbaseman than ARod? In that particular niche of the game, yes he is. Is he a better hitter or all around ballplayer? Not in his wildest dreams. It's not even worthy of discussion.

ARod has always been better then Crede... but I'd never want ARod on my team. IMO, he is a loser. Just look at teams records once he leaves that team.

ARod has always been better then Crede... but I'd never want ARod on my team. IMO, he is a loser. Just look at teams records once he leaves that team.

 

Sorry man. I totally disagree. ARod will go down as one of the greatest players in the history of the game.

Sorry man. I totally disagree. ARod will go down as one of the greatest players in the history of the game.

He will... but the question is, how many rings will he have?

He will... but the question is, how many rings will he have?

 

To put things in perspective, I wouldn't ever call Ernie Banks a loser.

To put things in perspective, I wouldn't ever call Ernie Banks a loser.

Ernie Banks wasn't making 26 million a year, and being labeled as the best hitter of his generation.

TRADE FOR VINNY CASTILLA!!!

 

NO, TRADE FOR JOE RANDA!!!

Ernie Banks wasn't making 26 million a year, and being labeled as the best hitter of his generation.

 

ARod probably is the best hitter of his generation. It's arguable, but he's in the top few. Baseball is a team game. It doesn't matter how much money he makes, he produces between the white lines. Guys like Banks and Fisk are not losers because they didn't play for a champion. Geoff Blum is not what you'd call a winner, but he has a ring. I'm not discounting the fact that rings are part of the equation. I'm just saying you can't call a guy a loser because he hasn't got any. I'm no 'fan' of ARod, but the mf'er can play.

When you sign a player to such a ridiculous price as ARod was, that means you are signing him to be your cornerstone, and take you to the promise land... that has yet to happen, and I don't see it happening any time soon. Also, his great postseason performances aren't helping.

When you sign a player to such a ridiculous price as ARod was, that means you are signing him to be your cornerstone, and take you to the promise land... that has yet to happen, and I don't see it happening any time soon. Also, his great postseason performances aren't helping.

 

Yeah ... It's ARod's fault that Hicks was stupid enough to throw the bank vault at him. That makes him a loser.

Yeah ... It's ARod's fault that Hicks was stupid enough to throw the bank vault at him. That makes him a loser.

 

From the years 94-00, the M's were a mediocre team. Had a few playoff seasons, nothing special. Then, all of a sudden, the year ARod leaves, they win 116 games!

 

From the years 01-03, the Rangers were the basement dwellers of the West. Then all of a sudden when he leaves, they win 89 games.

 

Coincidences, I think not.

Baseball is a team game. I'm done. This is going nowhere productive. Have a good night.

From the years 94-00, the M's were a mediocre team. Had a few playoff seasons, nothing special. Then, all of a sudden, the year ARod leaves, they win 116 games!

 

From the years 01-03, the Rangers were the basement dwellers of the West. Then all of a sudden when he leaves, they win 89 games.

 

Coincidences, I think not.

Wow, that's the ultimate basketball fan's response. Replace A-Rod with the average 3B and I guarantee you you're no better off. No 3B/SS with an all-time great bat has ever caused a team to be worse than it was without him. Now, the rangers may have been basement dwellers because of the CONTRACT they gave A-rod which tied up all their money, but it wasn't his presence that hurt them. And the M's winning 116 games after A-Rod left is in no way related to his disappearence. No one position player is bad enough to lose their team 40+ games like you're asserting.

 

Any chance we can package Crede and some minor league bullpen arms (Dewon Day) for Griffey?

Personally, I think the last thing we need is to get older and more injury prone.

Just compare the 2000 and 2001 M's... no real major differences except the addition of Ichiro and Loss of ARod.

 

There were a bit more differences between the 03 and 04 Rangers, but none big enough where they were a much better team overall.

 

I wonder why..

 

I am also done with this. Good night.

From the years 94-00, the M's were a mediocre team. Had a few playoff seasons, nothing special. Then, all of a sudden, the year ARod leaves, they win 116 games!

 

From the years 01-03, the Rangers were the basement dwellers of the West. Then all of a sudden when he leaves, they win 89 games.

 

Coincidences, I think not.

 

You make me sad to not only be a White Sox fan, but a baseball fan in general.

You make me sad to not only be a White Sox fan, but a baseball fan in general.

ditto

There were a bit more differences between the 03 and 04 Rangers, but none big enough where they were a much better team overall.

 

I wonder why..

 

Texas ERA+:

 

2001 - 78

2002 - 95

2003 - 87

 

2004 - 111

 

But yeah... A-Rod's no winner. I'm glad you know that he's not a winner, too... Is that similar to being what Hawk would call a "baseball player"?

Just compare the 2000 and 2001 M's... no real major differences except the addition of Ichiro and Loss of ARod.

 

There were a bit more differences between the 03 and 04 Rangers, but none big enough where they were a much better team overall.

 

I wonder why..

 

I am also done with this. Good night.

 

I don't even like Pay-rod, but you're being ridiculous.

Edited May 18, 200718 yr by Jordan4life_2007

Crede should bounce back. While he won't put up Arod numbers, Joe should provide some decent pop and a .270 avg. All it takes is a game like Dye had yesterday from Crede and a hit streak and people will be saying he's a guy who should be locked up long term.

 

Joe shouldn't be going anywhere this yr if the sox are truly in the running for the playoffs. Though an offseason deal is probable as Fields should be ready in '08.

I don't even like Pay-rod, but you're being ridiculous.

ditto