November 17, 200718 yr The 2008 Batting Order and Line-up....odds of this happening? 2B- Marcus Giles LF- Miguel Cabrera DH- Jim Thome 1B- Paul Konerko RF- Jermaine Dye CF- Torii Hunter 3B- Josh Fields C- A.J. Pierzynski SS- Juan Uribe ADDRESSING THE MONEY ISSUE Trade Contreras, Garland, Podsednik, and Crede which will free up millions of dollars Sign Giles to a 1yr deal with a club option, and ask for Florida to pick up some of Miggy's contract Jerry isn't a poor owner the last time I checked. Just like when the Bulls dominated the 90s, Jerry shelled more money to them instead of the White Sox. It seems he is applying that technique to the White Sox since the World Series by spending, spending, spending. This line-up may cost millions of dollars but it will be made up 10 fold by national TV exposure and higher demand of ticket sales. (Just like the Boston Celtics have done by acquiring Garnett and Allen) Edited November 17, 200718 yr by wilmot825
November 17, 200718 yr QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Nov 16, 2007 -> 11:13 PM) The 2008 Batting Order and Line-up....odds of this happening? 2B- Marcus Giles LF- Miguel Cabrera DH- Jim Thome 1B- Paul Konerko RF- Jermaine Dye CF- Torii Hunter 3B- Josh Fields C- A.J. Pierzynski SS- Juan Uribe We are not going with 6 years and 90 for Hunter. So scratch him off the list. Cabrera would require luck, and if he was here Fields wouldnt be. How much money do you think we have.
November 17, 200718 yr When did the Sox develop a farm and when did the Steinbrenner's buy the White Sox?
November 17, 200718 yr QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Nov 16, 2007 -> 11:13 PM) The 2008 Batting Order and Line-up....odds of this happening? 2B- Marcus Giles LF- Miguel Cabrera DH- Jim Thome 1B- Paul Konerko RF- Jermaine Dye CF- Torii Hunter 3B- Josh Fields C- A.J. Pierzynski SS- Juan Uribe ADDRESSING THE MONEY ISSUE Trade Contreras, Garland, Podsednik, and Crede which will free up millions of dollars Sign Giles to a 1yr deal with a club option, and ask for Florida to pick up some of Miggy's contract Jerry isn't a poor owner the last time I checked. Just like when the Bulls dominated the 90s, Jerry shelled more money to them instead of the White Sox. It seems he is applying that technique to the White Sox since the World Series by spending, spending, spending. This line-up may cost millions of dollars but it will be made up 10 fold by national TV exposure and higher demand of ticket sales. (Just like the Boston Celtics have done by acquiring Garnett and Allen) First off, Florida is not going to pick up any of Cabrera's contract if they trade him. Pods will net you nothing. Crede may get you something half way decent but I think he will have to show he can play first. Trade Contreras and Garland. OK. Then who pitches? If the rotation is Buerhle, Vazquez, Danks, Floyd and Gio, you better start planning for 2009, and I'm sure season ticketholders would be even happier with their 2009 seat upgrades.
November 17, 200718 yr To be realistic: Defense C: AJ Pierzynski 1B: Paul Konerko 2B: Robinson Cano SS: David Eckstein 3B: Josh Fields LF: Coco Crisp CF: Torii Hunter RF: Jermaine Dye DH: Jim Thome Lineup 1. Coco Crisp 2. David Eckstein 3. Jim Thome 4. Paul Konerko 5. Tori Hunter 6. Jermaine Dye 7. Robinson Cano 8. AJ Pierzynski 9. Josh Fields Rotation 1. Mark Buehrle 2. Javier Vazquez 3. Jon Garland 4. Yovani Gallardo 5. Gio Gonzalez Bullpen CL: Bobby Jenks RP: Boone Logan RP: Matt Thornton RP: Ehren Wasserman RP: Matt Wise RP: Carlos Marmol There are 1-2 dream picks, but I really want Marmol.
November 17, 200718 yr QUOTE(PAUL KONERKO 14 @ Nov 17, 2007 -> 07:19 AM) To be realistic: Defense C: AJ Pierzynski 1B: Paul Konerko 2B: Robinson Cano SS: David Eckstein 3B: Josh Fields LF: Coco Crisp CF: Torii Hunter RF: Jermaine Dye DH: Jim Thome Lineup 1. Coco Crisp 2. David Eckstein 3. Jim Thome 4. Paul Konerko 5. Tori Hunter 6. Jermaine Dye 7. Robinson Cano 8. AJ Pierzynski 9. Josh Fields Rotation 1. Mark Buehrle 2. Javier Vazquez 3. Jon Garland 4. Yovani Gallardo 5. Gio Gonzalez Bullpen CL: Bobby Jenks RP: Boone Logan RP: Matt Thornton RP: Ehren Wasserman RP: Matt Wise RP: Carlos Marmol There are 1-2 dream picks, but I really want Marmol. Realistic? Wow. Gio starting in 2008? Cano, Crisp, Eckstein, and Hunter? We will be lucky if one of those happen.
November 17, 200718 yr Florida's going to pick up some of Cabrera's contract? That would REALLY surprise me.
November 17, 200718 yr 1. Stewart/Owens, LF 2. Loretta/Richar, 2B 3. Thome, DH 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Dye, RF 6. Fields, 3B 7. Pierzynski, C 8. Hall, SS 9. Crisp, CF
November 17, 200718 yr QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 17, 2007 -> 10:00 AM) 1. Stewart/Owens, LF 2. Loretta/Richar, 2B 3. Thome, DH 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Dye, RF 6. Fields, 3B 7. Pierzynski, C 8. Hall, SS 9. Crisp, CF I'm hoping this is similar to our starting lineup next season. I'm not hot on Loretta, however and don't think he's looking to platoon with a guy like Richar. You can also replace Uribe with Hall on there. But everything else I really agree with. Edited November 17, 200718 yr by rockren
November 17, 200718 yr 1. Figgins-2b 2. Rowand-cf 3. Thome-dh 4. Konerko-1b 5. Dye-rf 6. Fields-3b 7. Pierzynsk-c 8. Uribe-ss 9. Crisp-lf Buerhle, Vazquez, Contreras, Danks, Broadway Garland traded to LAA for Figgins and Prospects
November 17, 200718 yr 1. Figgins-2b 2. Rowand-cf 3. Thome-dh 4. Konerko-1b 5. Dye-rf 6. Fields-3b 7. Pierzynsk-c 8. Uribe-ss 9. Crisp-lf Buerhle, Vazquez, Contreras, Danks, Broadway Garland traded to LAA for Figgins and Prospects That's not bad.
November 17, 200718 yr I'll wait till opening day to take sides on any line up issue and express my opinion on what should be Edited November 17, 200718 yr by elrockinMT
November 18, 200718 yr The 2008 Batting Order and Line-up....odds of this happening? 2B- Marcus Giles LF- Miguel Cabrera DH- Jim Thome 1B- Paul Konerko RF- Jermaine Dye CF- Torii Hunter 3B- Josh Fields C- A.J. Pierzynski SS- Juan Uribe ADDRESSING THE MONEY ISSUE Trade Contreras, Garland, Podsednik, and Crede which will free up millions of dollars Sign Giles to a 1yr deal with a club option, and ask for Florida to pick up some of Miggy's contract Jerry isn't a poor owner the last time I checked. Just like when the Bulls dominated the 90s, Jerry shelled more money to them instead of the White Sox. It seems he is applying that technique to the White Sox since the World Series by spending, spending, spending. This line-up may cost millions of dollars but it will be made up 10 fold by national TV exposure and higher demand of ticket sales. (Just like the Boston Celtics have done by acquiring Garnett and Allen) Odds are 0%. Giles is a dumb signing IMO. He has been a terrible hitter since he has been off the juice. He and his brother both give me the vibe. I can see him being on that Mitchell report...If not, good for him, I still don't want him in our lineup. I dont even know if he had a .300 OBP last season so lead off is definately out of the question as well. 2nd. I am all for a deal for Miggy. Dont know why he'd be hitting 2nd though. And acquiring him would involve Fields. So Josh shouldnt be in the lineup. Also, why do we need the Marlins to pay his salary? We don't and more importantly...they wouldn't. Furthermore, if we got Miggy...I doubt we keep Thome/Paulie/Dye. I'd imagine Paulie is out the door and cashing a ticket to LA. Hunter isn't coming anymore if it's a 6 year deal he seeks. I thought we had a chance at him but now I am back to assuming Texas has it locked up. He was just toying with our emotions. No one is taking on Contreras. I'd be 100% shocked if KW pulled it off. We'd be better off letting him pitch here and see if he improves enough to get something for him @ the deadline. Garland I think will go but where is the question? I'd assume we get one guy who is in our everyday lineup for him. A young OF is my assumption and then a mid prospect to add into a potential Miggy deal. Pods...? Crede I'd take the risk on too at this point. Unless we get a great deal for him. JR won't spend on this team much more. He is already trying to dump payroll (IE Garland, Contreras, etc). Hunter seems to be the only guy he'd be willing to sign but that also seems to come with the terms of dealing guys so we don't have to go much higher in payroll. It is nothing like the Celtics because we don't have the same type of history they do followed up by 20 years of losing. Thats why they'll get an increase in fans. Ours are fading post-world series and I think JR has not much interest in throwing 100 mil away on a team that doesnt win, in turn making fans not watch.
November 18, 200718 yr 1. Jerry Owens CF 2. Chone Figgins 2b 3. Miguel Cabrera LF 4. Jim Thome DH 5. Jermaine Dye RF 6. Josh Fields 3b 7. Casey Kotchman 1b 8. AJP C 9. Juan Uribe SS
November 18, 200718 yr That would be my ideal team next season....However, I dont know why or how everyone thinks we can get Cabrera while keeping Fields. Miggy plays third for them, so naturally, they'd want a young replacement. Hmmm, do we have one? I think so....I would assume if any deal goes down the 1st piece they ask for is Fields, followed by whatever arms they want. Everything else with that team I like. Paulie I think will be moved upon a deal for Miggy. Figgins/Kotchman may be a bit much but who knows, depends on the prospect or arm that'll be sure to come with it.
November 18, 200718 yr QUOTE(palehose23 @ Nov 17, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) 1. Figgins-2b 2. Rowand-cf 3. Thome-dh 4. Konerko-1b 5. Dye-rf 6. Fields-3b 7. Pierzynsk-c 8. Uribe-ss 9. Crisp-lf Buerhle, Vazquez, Contreras, Danks, Broadway Garland traded to LAA for Figgins and Prospects Hmmmm, I'd almost rather have richar than crisp(effectively, I know they don't play the same position) depending on who we have to give up for crisp. You save about 4 mil IIRC too. Edited November 18, 200718 yr by max power
November 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 17, 2007 -> 11:14 PM) 1. Jerry Owens CF 2. Chone Figgins 2b 3. Miguel Cabrera LF 4. Jim Thome DH 5. Jermaine Dye RF 6. Josh Fields 3b 7. Casey Kotchman 1b 8. AJP C 9. Juan Uribe SS QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Nov 18, 2007 -> 03:03 AM) That would be my ideal team next season....However, I dont know why or how everyone thinks we can get Cabrera while keeping Fields. Miggy plays third for them, so naturally, they'd want a young replacement. Hmmm, do we have one? I think so....I would assume if any deal goes down the 1st piece they ask for is Fields, followed by whatever arms they want. Everything else with that team I like. Paulie I think will be moved upon a deal for Miggy. Figgins/Kotchman may be a bit much but who knows, depends on the prospect or arm that'll be sure to come with it. ahh yes, my mistake let me switch it around real quick 1. Owens 2. Figgens 3b 3. Cabrera 4. Thome 5. Dye 6. Kotchman 7. AJP 8. Uribe 9. Richar 2b or maybe if kenny gets on the ball and deals some guys to free up cap space 1. Owens LF (im sure he could play left and i personally think hes gonna get better with the stick) 2. Figgens 2b 3. Cabrera 3b 4. Thome DH 5. Dye RF 6. Hunter CF 7. Kotchman 8. AJP C 9. Uribe ss 1. Buehrle 2. Vaz 3. Carlos Silva 4. Danks 5. Floyd (hes showed flashes last year that he can hang) Thornton (L) Carlos Villanueva ® (in garland trade) Logan (L) Wassermann ® Scot Shields ® Joe Beimel (L) (rumors of crede goin to the dodgers so maybe we can get him in the deal) closer Jenks my question to you guys (im a die hard sox fans but am clueless when it comes to cap room) is if we deal the contracts of Garland, Count, Crede, and Konerko do you think we'd be able to get a carlos silva and a torii hunter? Edited November 19, 200718 yr by 2nd_city_saint787
November 19, 200718 yr 1. Jerry Owens 2. Orlando Cabrera 3. Jim Thome 4. Paul Konerko 5. Jermaine Dye 6. Josh Fields 7. OF 8. AJ Pierzynski 9. Danny Richar
November 20, 200718 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:00 AM) 1. Jerry Owens 2. Orlando Cabrera 3. Jim Thome 4. Paul Konerko 5. Jermaine Dye 6. Josh Fields 7. OF 8. AJ Pierzynski 9. Danny Richar Where would tori hunter bat in that lineup if they signed him? Edited November 20, 200718 yr by max power
November 20, 200718 yr QUOTE(max power @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) Where would tori hunter bat in that lineup if they signed him? 6th
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