November 20, 200718 yr Posted in the catch-all thread already, but this has stirred a big debate here already, so it deserves its own thread. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb
November 21, 200718 yr Someone voted Carlos Marmol 10th. ...and Soriano 3rd. I wonder if it was Phil Rogers. For a leadoff man Rollins' OBP isn't very spectacular.
November 21, 200718 yr QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 06:10 PM) ...and Soriano 3rd. I wonder if it was Phil Rogers. For a leadoff man Rollins' OBP isn't very spectacular. He had a .903 OPS as a leadoff hitter this season. I would punch someones child for the Sox to have that.
November 21, 200718 yr David Wright = .325/.416/.546 (.962 OPS) - 73 Extra base hits, 34 SBs, gold glove Not saying he should have won it, but to not get a single first place vote is kinda ridiculous.
November 21, 200718 yr He had a .903 OPS as a leadoff hitter this season. I would punch someones child for the Sox to have that. Which ranked him fifth on his team. That slugging is being wasted in that spot, just like Soriano. Rollins' raw numbers like the number of doubles, HR, triples aren't THAT impressive to me because he had over 700 at-bats. If his lineup is giving so many opportunities to bat, how is he so valuable to the team? Holliday's road/home splits are ridiculous, but Colorado was just on fire in September when he put up a .367/.448/.796! line.
November 21, 200718 yr I think besides Rollins already good numbers, they actually may have looked beyond numbers and actually on their impact on their respective teams as a factor?
November 21, 200718 yr I think besides Rollins already good numbers, they actually may have looked beyond numbers and actually on their impact on their respective teams as a factor? Holliday should've won it then. Look at his and Colorado's Septembers.
November 21, 200718 yr I think Rob Neyer has sort of an interesting point. Last year, Ryan Howard won the NL MVP despite Pujols's team making the playoffs, because, at least in the HR and RBI columns, Howard put up better numbers. This year, Jimmy Rollins won the NL MVP despite several other players putting up better numbers in HR, RBI, OPS, etc., because his team wound up making the playoffs. A little consistency people?
November 21, 200718 yr This is probably the first time in a while I've agreed on basically every award that was given.
November 21, 200718 yr QUOTE(PAUL KONERKO 14 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 09:01 PM) Fixed someone doesn't understand the term VORP
November 21, 200718 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) I think Rob Neyer has sort of an interesting point. Last year, Ryan Howard won the NL MVP despite Pujols's team making the playoffs, because, at least in the HR and RBI columns, Howard put up better numbers. This year, Jimmy Rollins won the NL MVP despite several other players putting up better numbers in HR, RBI, OPS, etc., because his team wound up making the playoffs. A little consistency people? In the Pujols-Howard case, Howard's team won 3 more games.
November 21, 200718 yr QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 07:51 PM) Holliday should've won it then. Look at his and Colorado's Septembers. There was a ridiculous statistic though where in games where Rollins scored a run vs wins where he didnt. Plus Coors field didnt do much to help Holliday
November 21, 200718 yr at least this isn't as bad as Morneau winning it in my opinion. I thought he was the 3rd best player on their team last year.
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