BTW we haven't taken this turn in the conversation yet and it didn't occur to me earlier but it needs to be said - a lot more of black problems, as a race, are self-inflicted than some care to admit and they should be thinking about that before they start thinking about who to blame or what people think of them. That isn't what started this whole mess but in theory it should be the easiest thing to fix. At least simple things like "get up off your ass and go do something." Other things, like "I got robbed on the way to the store b/c my neighborhood sucks and I can't afford to move out" or "the schools around here are pathetic" you can't do anything about.

Rev. Wright Speech in Context

 

Someone directed me to this website tonight. Think any of the MSM will give it a peek as well?

"God Damn America" in context. A little extreme, but far less worse than it was described.

 

Movie review Michael Medved's take on the Obama speech as well as slavery.

Movie review Michael Medved's take on the Obama speech as well as slavery.

Best Line:

"There is no reason to believe that today’s African Americans would be better off if their ancestors had remained behind in Africa."

 

See? We did them a FAVOR! *gags*

 

Best Line:

"There is no reason to believe that today’s African Americans would be better off if their ancestors had remained behind in Africa."

 

See? We did them a FAVOR! *gags*

Pat Buchanan's most recent column...

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

 

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

 

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

 

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

 

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

 

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

 

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

 

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

 

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

How does Pat retain his job at MSNBC?

Edited March 24, 200818 yr by BigSqwert

I hope you all realize that because of people like Wright, who get the publicity on TV, there are a LOT of people who really feel this way. To just dismiss them isn't very smart.

How does Pat retain his job at MSNBC?

 

 

He is MSNBC's answer to balance. Liberal network token conservative. Oh yeah, Tucker too, if you can find him now that his show was cancelled.

He is MSNBC's answer to balance. Liberal network token conservative. Oh yeah, Tucker too, if you can find him now that his show was cancelled.

And Scarborough.

And Scarborough.

I actually really like Scarborough. He seems more moderate.

Pat Buchanan's most recent column...

Thanks...Good read!!

Clinton keeping Reverend Wright in the headlines. I find it funny that Mike Huckabee defended Obama but Clinton keeps trying to drag him through the mud.

Edited March 25, 200818 yr by BigSqwert

Clinton keeping Reverend Wright in the headlines. I find it funny that Mike Huckabee defended Obama but Clinton keeps trying to drag him through the mud.

 

Why? Mike Huckabee seems to be at least a decent person.

Why? Mike Huckabee seems to be at least a decent person.

His politics scared me a bit, but I said during his candidacy that I liked the postivism he brought to the table. He and Obama both excel at that - not falling as far into the muck and mire.

 

Why? Mike Huckabee seems to be at least a decent person.

 

Yes. Huckabee was the cream of the crop on the Democrat side. I didn't think so at first, but I'd probably vote for him over McCain.

Why? Mike Huckabee seems to be at least a decent person.

I just find it odd that a Republican can defend Obama but Clinton just keeps trying to rip the party apart.

I just find it odd that a Republican can defend Obama but Clinton just keeps trying to rip the party apart.

 

yep ... I totally effed up on that one. Guilty as charged.

 

 

But I can admit when when I'm wrong.

Hillary's Nasty Pastorate

Clinton keeping Reverend Wright in the headlines. I find it funny that Mike Huckabee defended Obama but Clinton keeps trying to drag him through the mud.

Well, there's another potential way to look at the pastor/Huckabee issue...specifically, Huckabee still appears to have ambitions within that party and could easily be setting himself up for a VP slot or a run in 2012 or a run for some other position, and he is a former preacher himself...who by the way never released more than a few of his sermons from his time as a pastor.

I just find it odd that a Republican can defend Obama but Clinton just keeps trying to rip the party apart.

 

well, from her standpoint it's really her only chance of winning. i don't agree with the approach, but it's her last bullet.

I just find it odd that a Republican can defend Obama but Clinton just keeps trying to rip the party apart.

 

When you look at who is involved... It doesn't surprise me at all. Hillary would run over Chelsea if it meant getting elected President.

yep ... I totally effed up on that one. Guilty as charged.

But I can admit when when I'm wrong.

You just made me laugh out loud at work.

I heard recently that Obama's poll ratings have recovered since this story broke, and are now actually higher then ever... any truth to this?

I heard recently that Obama's poll ratings have recovered since this story broke, and are now actually higher then ever... any truth to this?

I think someone posted that recently, maybe even me, I don't recall. But yes, his numbers recovered on a national basis, it would seem.