The White Sox have allowed the fewest runs in the AL, while scoring the second most.

 

That = recipe for success right there!

The White Sox have allowed the fewest runs in the AL, while scoring the second most.

 

That = recipe for success right there!

Stat geeks always say the best predictor for future success is run differential. Our's would indidcate we are playing damn good baseball and the Red Sox's would indicate they are getting a bit lucky.

The White Sox have allowed the fewest runs in the AL, while scoring the second most.

 

That = recipe for success right there!

I was looking at the Espn MLB standings last night and noticed the same thing! I am so happy Ozzie and Kenny prefer OBP over SBs.

I do worry about the run scoring aspect however. This team has 3 regulars hitting above .250.

The Dbacks would say it doesnt mean as much as you would think.

I do worry about the run scoring aspect however. This team has 3 regulars hitting above .250.

 

Wow. So Imagine when they hit higher.

I do worry about the run scoring aspect however. This team has 3 regulars hitting above .250.

yeah but what's their OPS? run production doesn't always come from how often you get a hit, it more often comes from how hard you hit it and how often people are there to drive in. after all, it may take 2 seeing eye singles to get a runner in from 2b, which would raise batting averages, whereas one double will always get them home. thats just my opinion of the matter

The Dbacks would say it doesnt mean as much as you would think.

 

Bulls***. The Dbacks are the best team in baseball and it is not a fluke.

Bulls***. The Dbacks are the best team in baseball and it is not a fluke.

Iam refering to last year when they were outscored and were still a winning team.

Iam refering to last year when they were outscored and were still a winning team.

touche

Here's another.

 

Our infield has a combined RZR of .755. Outfield is .928.

 

AL averages are .788 and .895 respectively.

The Dbacks would say it doesnt mean as much as you would think.

That was an aberration last year, that rarely happens.

Here's another.

 

Our infield has a combined RZR of .755. Outfield is .928.

 

AL averages are .788 and .895 respectively.

I know it stands for "Revised Zone Rating"

 

But Can you explain the formula for RZR please?

I do worry about the run scoring aspect however. This team has 3 regulars hitting above .250.

 

Yeah, but the team has 6 players with OBPs over .350

 

And OBP is, statistically, a better predictor of runs than batting average.

 

When it comes to predicting runs, OBP is 1st; SLG is 2nd. As long as the Sox are doing well in those two areas, batting average is much less important.

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Yeah, but the team has 6 players with OBPs over .350

 

And OBP is, statistically, a better predictor of runs than batting average.

 

When it comes to predicting runs, OBP is 1st; SLG is 2nd. As long as the Sox are doing well in those two areas, batting average is much less important.

 

So that would lead me to believe that OPS is 1st, OBP is 2nd, and SLG is 3rd.

 

I just like being that guy.

The White Sox have allowed the fewest runs in the AL, while scoring the second most.

 

That = recipe for success right there!

1st in HRs (25), 4th in BBs (77), 1st in HRs Allowed (5), and 2nd in BBs Allowed (57).

I do worry about the run scoring aspect however. This team has 3 regulars hitting above .250.

 

Stop and think of it this way... If I told you that Konerko and Thome would be hitting under .200 and Buehrle would have an era of about 6, what would you guess the Sox record would be?

It helps that we aren't planning on giving 1000 PA to black holes like Pods, Erstad and Gonzalez like last year. Instead we have Quentin, Swisher and OCab who should put up a combined OPS of around .800 for 1500 PA. That's a huge improvement.

 

It's most effective to shore up the worst areas of a team as you get the most bang for your buck. Kudos to KW for making the changes (and in some cases like the Owens injury being forced into it) that would improve the team most effectively.

I know it stands for "Revised Zone Rating"

 

But Can you explain the formula for RZR please?

Revised Zone Rating is the proportion of balls hit into a fielder's zone that he successfully converted into an out. Zone Rating was invented by John Dewan when he was CEO of Stats Inc. John is now the owner of Baseball Info Solutions, where he has revised the original Zone Rating calculation so that it now lists balls handled out of the zone (OOZ) separately (and doesn't include them in the ZR calculation) and doesn't give players extra credit for double plays (Stats had already made that change). We believe both changes improve Zone Ratings substantially. To get a full picture of a player's range, you should evaluate both his Revised Zone Rating and his plays made out of zone (OOZ). You can read more about the Revised Zone Ratings in this article.

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...hardball-times/

 

Revised Zone Rating is the proportion of balls hit into a fielder's zone that he successfully converted into an out. Zone Rating was invented by John Dewan when he was CEO of Stats Inc. John is now the owner of Baseball Info Solutions, where he has revised the original Zone Rating calculation so that it now lists balls handled out of the zone (OOZ) separately (and doesn't include them in the ZR calculation) and doesn't give players extra credit for double plays (Stats had already made that change). We believe both changes improve Zone Ratings substantially. To get a full picture of a player's range, you should evaluate both his Revised Zone Rating and his plays made out of zone (OOZ). You can read more about the Revised Zone Ratings in this article.

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...hardball-times/

Thanks DBAHO, I appreciate it. That's better info than I found.

The Dbacks would say it doesnt mean as much as you would think.

So would the 06 Indians, but for the opposite reason.

 

And they'd all be wrong, because they were simply a couple of very rare exceptions.

 

Stop and think of it this way... If I told you that Konerko and Thome would be hitting under .200 and Buehrle would have an era of about 6, what would you guess the Sox record would be?

 

If I was a total jackass, I'd start complaining and saying this is just like last year, we suck, and Kenny should have traded Konerko. If you then told me David Ortiz has an OPS of about .524 and CC Sabathia has an ERA of around 10.0, I'd ignore that and continue complaining about my team.