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Социализм является путь к величию. Мы должны убедить kapkomet словами или с помощью силы.

 

edited to green so kap's head doesn't explode when he figures out what I just said.

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I know a lot of people don't like him but this is awesome:

New Rule: If America can't get its act together, it must lose the bald eagle as our symbol and replace it with the YouTube video of the puppy that can't get up. As long as we're pathetic, we might as well act like it's cute. I don't care about the president's birth certificate, I do want to know what happened to "Yes we can." Can we get out of Iraq? No. Afghanistan? No. Fix health care? No. Close Gitmo? No. Cap-and-trade carbon emissions? No. The Obamas have been in Washington for ten months and it seems like the only thing they've gotten is a dog.

 

Well, I hate to be a nudge, but why has America become a nation that can't make anything bad end, like wars, farm subsidies, our oil addiction, the drug war, useless weapons programs - oh, and there's still 60,000 troops in Germany - and can't make anything good start, like health care reform, immigration reform, rebuilding infrastructure. Even when we address something, the plan can never start until years down the road. Congress's climate change bill mandates a 17% cut in greenhouse gas emissions... by 2020! Fellas, slow down, where's the fire? Oh yeah, it's where I live, engulfing the entire western part of the United States!

 

We might pass new mileage standards, but even if we do, they wouldn't start until 2016. In that year, our cars of the future will glide along at a breathtaking 35 miles-per-gallon. My goodness, is that even humanly possible? Cars that get 35 miles-per-gallon in just six years? Get your head out of the clouds, you socialist dreamer! "What do we want!? A small improvement! When do we want it!? 2016!"

 

When it's something for us personally, like a laxative, it has to start working now. My TV remote has a button on it now called "On Demand". You get your ass on my TV screen right now, Jon Cryer, and make me laugh. Now! But when it's something for the survival of the species as a whole, we phase that in slowly.

 

Folks, we don't need more efficient cars. We need something to replace cars. That's what's wrong with these piddly, too-little-too-late half-measures that pass for "reform" these days. They're not reform, they're just putting off actually solving anything to a later day, when we might by some miracle have, a] leaders with balls, and b] a general populace who can think again. Barack Obama has said, "If we were starting from scratch, then a single-payer system would probably make sense." So let's start from scratch.

 

Even if they pass the s***ty Max Baucus health care bill, it doesn't kick in for 4 years, during which time 175,000 people will die because they're not covered, and about three million will go bankrupt from hospital bills. We have a pretty good idea of the Republican plan for the next three years: Don't let Obama do anything. What kills me is that that's the Democrats' plan, too.

 

We weren't always like this. Inert. In 1965, Lyndon Johnson signed Medicare into law and 11 months later seniors were receiving benefits. During World War II, virtually overnight FDR had auto companies making tanks and planes only. In one eight year period, America went from JFK's ridiculous dream of landing a man on the moon, to actually landing a man on the moon.

 

This generation has had eight years to build something at Ground Zero. An office building, a museum, an outlet mall, I don't care anymore. I'm tempted to say that, symbolically, all America can do lately is keep digging a hole, but Ground Zero doesn't represent a hole. It is a hole. America: Home of the Freedom Pit. Ironically, it's spitting distance from Wall Street, where they knock down buildings a different way - through foreclosure.

 

That's the ultimate sign of our lethargy: millions thrown out of their homes, tossed out of work, lost their life savings, retirements postponed - and they just take it. 30% interest on credit cards? It's a good thing the Supreme Court legalized sodomy a few years ago.

 

Why can't we get off our back? Is it something in the food? Actually, yes. I found out something interesting researching last week's editorial on how we should be taxing the unhealthy things Americans put into their bodies, like sodas and junk foods and gerbils. Did you know that we eat the same high-fat, high-carb, sugar-laden s*** that's served in prisons and in religious cults to keep the subjects in a zombie-like state of lethargic compliance? Why haven't Americans arisen en masse to demand a strong public option? Because "The Bachelor" is on. We're tired and our brain stems hurt from washing down French fries with McDonald's orange drink.

 

The research is in: high-fat diets makes you lazy and stupid. Rats on an American diet weren't motivated to navigate their maze and once in the maze they made more mistakes. And, instead of exercising on their wheel, they just used it to hang clothes on. Of course we can't ban assault rifles - we're the first generation too lazy to make its own coffee. We're the generation that invented the soft chocolate chip cookie: like a cookie, only not so exhausting to chew. I ask you, if the food we're eating in America isn't making us stupid, how come the people in Carl's Jr. ads never think to put a napkin over their pants?

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 26, 2009 -> 07:06 PM)
I read this too. Really sad story.

 

It doesn't get a media coverage, but we need to stop with the death penalty. That story is just one of the many reasons that it has to go.

 

I think the bigger problems were the totally inept arson "experts" and the all the safeguards like the governor's office who didn't even bother reading the report which showed the fire was an accident.

 

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QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 27, 2009 -> 04:25 PM)
I think the bigger problems were the totally inept arson "experts" and the all the safeguards like the governor's office who didn't even bother reading the report which showed the fire was an accident.

In other words...the system doesn't work right now. There might be a way to make it work, but we haven't found it yet.

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 26, 2009 -> 02:06 PM)
I read this too. Really sad story.

 

It doesn't get a media coverage, but we need to stop with the death penalty. That story is just one of the many reasons that it has to go.

 

I'm fairly anti-death penalty, but I do believe it should be retained for some, albeit very few, crimes and actions at the Federal level.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 07:07 AM)
I'm fairly anti-death penalty, but I do believe it should be retained for some, albeit very few, crimes and actions at the Federal level.

I've always been uncertain about where to come down on the death penalty fro one reason...I find it hard for me to tell a victim family what they should want.

 

But, given how we implement the system in this country and how much of a mess it is, I can't currently defend it even for that reason. Does a victim's family no good to put the wrong person to death.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 08:41 PM)

People can't get over seeing it as a punitive measure so they never really question their own logic. Terrorists are bad people who did bad things and they must be punished, and it's silly to suggest there is a limit to how much punishment they should get. Whether this argument is valid or not is totally irrelevant though and people who do it are wasting time talking about it, and usually don't realize it.

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What Do You Mean By "White Culture", Mr Beck?

 

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*shakes head*

OK so I had World of Warcraft's login screen open when I watched this video. The music matches up hilariously with watching Glenn Beck talk.

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I'm anti-death penalty, but not because I care if some multiple victim murderer dies. Its because no matter how hard we try, the system is flawed, and someone innocent will die, which I cannot abide.

Or spend the rest of their life in the Federal Pen at Marion enduring a living hell. The innocent people who get executed at least get put out of their misery.

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