No. Just tea bag protests.

So do you really believe that because they are the biggest threat to the US, they should reported more often than things that are actually happening in the day to day news? Should the lead story on the networks be the Taliban every night?

 

No, but that's sort of the point.

Then why did organizations like CPAC get so much coverage in the prior eight years, without being federally funded and breaking laws?

 

 

Because its always different.

 

 

UNIONS=GOOD CPAC=BAD COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS=GOOD

 

 

Easy enough

I am trying to follow the moving goalposts to be honest. One minute we were talking about the news, and then it got switched to what actually was news.

 

Anyways, my point is the same as the first time. What Glenn Beck talks about, or anyone on any news station is going to be dominated by the outrage of the day. The President's job isn't to be caught up in that mess.

Then your point is basically the same as mine I suppose. The President has daily staff meetings on Afghanistan and Fox is probably a blip on his radar, so the entire suggestion is ludicrous. Of course Beck knows this, and it's par for the course for him, and he just does it for ratings.

Because its always different.

 

 

UNIONS=GOOD CPAC=BAD COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS=GOOD

 

 

Easy enough

WOW!... just wow, he needs to talk much less

In response to press reports saying that the health care reform train is leaving the station with President Obama at the wheel (or whatever you use to run a train), Michael Steele just told Fox to look out because he is "cow on the tracks." In other words, in addition to his other shortcomings, Steele is apparently unschooled on the history of train/cow confrontations, though I'm not sure it's a metaphor Democrats will necessarily want to dispute. Later, in a new strike in his on-going war with his dignity, Steele pleaded for a "Rodney King moment" on health care.

And when Steele elaborated on the "Rodney King moment," he said he wanted everyone to "work toward something that reflects the common sense, bottom-up approach that the voters, and certainly the insurers of our country, you, me and others, want to be done."

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WOW!... just wow, he needs to talk much less

I'm not familiar with the term cow on the tracks. Why does that get a "WOW!"?

I'm not familiar with the term cow on the tracks. Why does that get a "WOW!"?

Back... like 200 years ago, prior to the invention of the "Cow Plow" aka the CowCatcher, you would have to stop a train and get the cow off the tracks... assuming he wanted to be moved... which Steele does not. Then in 1838, Charles Babbage invented the CowCatcher. This allowed a train to basically push the cow off the tracks instead of stopping. often... it would probably kill the cow.

 

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We keep talking about Fox like its a real news network. Is this really news?

 

We keep talking about Fox like its a real news network. Is this really news?

 

Well, in this case, really none of the mainstream news providers are doing a damn thing in the area of "real news".

 

I'm not familiar with the term cow on the tracks. Why does that get a "WOW!"?

All Dem talking point alignments get a "WOW!"

 

The weird bit to me is the Rodney King moment comment. I don't even get what he is trying to say.

 

Back... like 200 years ago, prior to the invention of the "Cow Plow" aka the CowCatcher, you would have to stop a train and get the cow off the tracks... assuming he wanted to be moved... which Steele does not. Then in 1838, Charles Babbage invented the CowCatcher. This allowed a train to basically push the cow off the tracks instead of stopping. often... it would probably kill the cow.

That Steak would be so ridiculously tender...

The weird bit to me is the Rodney King moment comment. I don't even get what he is trying to say.

Well, what he was trying to say that in the King beatings there was a general course of direction that everyone agreed on and he'd like to see that with health care. however, using the Rodney King beating as an example, with both him and Obama being black, is probably not a good reference point. 9/11 might be a good "America comes together" moment, but comparing 9/11 to Health Care might raise a few more eyebrows in the bad analogy department. Maybe the moon landing?? i dunno. King was a bad reference.

Well, what he was trying to say that in the King beatings there was a general course of direction that everyone agreed on and he'd like to see that with health care. however, using the Rodney King beating as an example, with both him and Obama being black, is probably not a good reference point. 9/11 might be a good "America comes together" moment, but comparing 9/11 to Health Care might raise a few more eyebrows in the bad analogy department. Maybe the moon landing?? i dunno. King was a bad reference.

The Rodney King situation, and the riots and court cases that followed, were the opposite of everyone agreeing on a course.

 

The Rodney King situation, and the riots and court cases that followed, were the opposite of everyone agreeing on a course.

I should clarify. Steele thinks it was a come together moment, I think. As for me, I am too young to remember it. So, I have no pesonal commentary on the situation.

To be honest, when he said "Rodney King moment" I wondered if he was talking about having the s*** beat out of him and wondered why he'd say that.

Like the most of the rest of you, I have no idea what Steele was trying to say there.

I still stand by my comments that Steele was elected so they can say "see, we have a black guy too!".

 

I know that's not PC, but I think it's right.

So, does anyone know what Steele has been doing behind the scenes? One of the things that helped the Dems a lot in some of the recent elections was the under-the-hood stuff that Dean was doing. Dean didn't focus on a lot of public statements and policy stuff, he acted more like an operational guy. So even though he came off as a bit crazy, that was OK, because he was effective.

 

Can the same be said of Steele? Is he maybe doing some positive things that he doesn't talk up in the press? Has anyone read about anything like that?

 

So, does anyone know what Steele has been doing behind the scenes? One of the things that helped the Dems a lot in some of the recent elections was the under-the-hood stuff that Dean was doing. Dean didn't focus on a lot of public statements and policy stuff, he acted more like an operational guy. So even though he came off as a bit crazy, that was OK, because he was effective.

 

Can the same be said of Steele? Is he maybe doing some positive things that he doesn't talk up in the press? Has anyone read about anything like that?

 

 

Yeah, but most or all the Dems were behind Dean. I'm not sure Republicans like Steele.

So, does anyone know what Steele has been doing behind the scenes? One of the things that helped the Dems a lot in some of the recent elections was the under-the-hood stuff that Dean was doing. Dean didn't focus on a lot of public statements and policy stuff, he acted more like an operational guy. So even though he came off as a bit crazy, that was OK, because he was effective.

 

Can the same be said of Steele? Is he maybe doing some positive things that he doesn't talk up in the press? Has anyone read about anything like that?

I think he's trying to build a solid base... maybe ineffectively, with hopes of building on that. The problem he faces is that he is trying so hard to build a very conservative base that it doesnt give much room for moderates. We've already heard a lot of the "if you arent with us, you're against us" talk coming from Steele.

I think he's trying to build a solid base... maybe ineffectively, with hopes of building on that. The problem he faces is that he is trying so hard to build a very conservative base that it doesnt give much room for moderates. We've already heard a lot of the "if you arent with us, you're against us" talk coming from Steele.

So basically, he is trying to do what the party has already been doing for a couple decades now.

 

So basically, he is trying to do what the party has already been doing for a couple decades now.

seems that way, but he's hipper.

Ideology isn't as important as demographics in terms of what's going to hurt the GOP. People are fickle about ideology between elections, but demographics are cold hard facts.

Josh Marshall's Deep Thought:

 

People should stop pretending Obama's the Messiah and get back to bedrock Americanism like praising Ronaldus Magnus.