As someone who also graduated from New Trier, I've found myself realizing this a lot lately. I knew as I was going through NT that I was receiving a much, much better education than the vast majority of the population (I also had a little different perspective, because I was much less well off than many of my classmates). However, I didn't realize how much better that education was until I got to college (and I go to Indiana, so not necessarily a good nor bad school) and saw how ridiculously unprepared many students were. When I'm in groups and whatnot and see the stuff some group members have written, I wonder how they ever finished high school, let alone got accepted into a decent college.

It's very sobering. And very difficult for students and teachers. How do I make sure all of my students get the most out of their education when some are so unprepared and some are so far ahead. Frankly, I don't see this divide getting any smaller in the near future either.

definitely. I know MIT currently posts selected lectures and coarse work on the Internet for anyone to read and attempt.

 

I believe Stanford has something similar as well.

It's very sobering. And very difficult for students and teachers. How do I make sure all of my students get the most out of their education when some are so unprepared and some are so far ahead. Frankly, I don't see this divide getting any smaller in the near future either.

 

well, we could make school longer.

well, we could make school longer.

And the money to pay for that is going to come from...?

And the money to pay for that is going to come from...?

*cough*

And the money to pay for that is going to come from...?

 

vouchers

*cough*

well, we could make school longer.

 

If the school is s*** quality more time in it won't help.

If the school is s*** quality more time in it won't help.

Can you offer a citation on this?

If the school is s*** quality more time in it won't help.

 

I find that hard to believe.

Remember how awful those census ads were, why would anyone listen to them, and why on Earth would they spend money on a super bowl ad?

 

Census is coming in at about $1.6 billion under budget due to a high mail-in response rate.

I hate the world.

Um, I get really bad sunburns. Like they blister and peel off. So, it's pretty hard to be white in the summer.

 

just noticed this post. I'm white, male, and tan enough that I basically never sunburn. I'm the uber privleged.

just noticed this post. I'm white, male, and tan enough that I basically never sunburn. I'm the uber privleged.

My dad was that way too...until the doctor said the "m" word.

Can you offer a citation on this?

 

No, but I've been doing some Scholarship of Teaching and Learning work recently and one thing you find is that interventions don't work if the instruction is of poor quality. Take, for example, Service Learning where students go into the community and apply what they've learned. Only works if the teaching is high rated and the instructor seems to know what's going on. So, a poor teacher and poor learning outcomes do not magically become mitigated by some intervention. Without quality instruction as a backbone, there's poor student outcomes associated. Perhaps it is an unfounded generalization.

No, but I've been doing some Scholarship of Teaching and Learning work recently and one thing you find is that interventions don't work if the instruction is of poor quality. Take, for example, Service Learning where students go into the community and apply what they've learned. Only works if the teaching is high rated and the instructor seems to know what's going on. So, a poor teacher and poor learning outcomes do not magically become mitigated by some intervention. Without quality instruction as a backbone, there's poor student outcomes associated. Perhaps it is an unfounded generalization.

 

but what about longer school days and shorter summer vacation

My dad was that way too...until the doctor said the "m" word.

 

I actually don't get a lot of sun, and I wear sunscreen when I do. I'm just naturally pretty dark.

 

Btw, I agreed with mr. genius that socioeconomic status is more relevant than race nowadays. I think we have at least come that far (although race is still relevant, obviously).

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yeah but socioeconomic status is still very strongly correlated with race.

just noticed this post. I'm white, male, and tan enough that I basically never sunburn. I'm the uber privleged.

That's because you look like a terrorist.

That's because you look like a terrorist.

 

If it looks like a terrorist, and acts like a terrorist....

 

(Note: I'm anticipating the feds at my door anyday now. )

If it looks like a terrorist, and acts like a terrorist....

 

(Note: I'm anticipating the feds at my door anyday now. )

I called them off for you.

For f***'s sake Minnesota can you have an election without a recount? Crikey.

Ah the Jersey Shore.

 

I think this is because of the "10% tax on tanning" that Obama levied, or something.

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/s..._with_obam.html

The American Family Association comes out against construction of any more Mosques.

The American Family Association comes out against construction of any more Mosques.

Hey look, idiots!