What's worse, these are high paying jobs of a highly technical nature. These people are too rich. Uh huh.

 

 

Weren't the Republicans 2 months ago making an issue of how much of a waste that was?

 

It's better stimulus than a tax cut, but just like all defense spending, its actual value to the country's future is limited.

One thing that is right about your comment is you absolutely should not "save" these people for the sake of a program that really isn't needed. However, the merits of "needed" is highly debateable. And I'm not saying it is or it isn't of value. It's just the point that these are indeed high paying jobs.

Weren't the Republicans 2 months ago making an issue of how much of a waste that was?

 

It's better stimulus than a tax cut, but just like all defense spending, its actual value to the country's future is limited.

 

Weren't you the one who was recently saying that it didn't matter how wasteful that spending was as long as it was spending when we were talking about government spending?

Weren't the Republicans 2 months ago making an issue of how much of a waste that was?

 

It's better stimulus than a tax cut, but just like all defense spending, its actual value to the country's future is limited.

 

I don't recall that. I just remember Obama being questioned about it by a reporter is all.

Weren't you the one who was recently saying that it didn't matter how wasteful that spending was as long as it was spending when we were talking about government spending?

Like I said, it's better stimulus than a tax cut. But, the most effective stimulus is going to be something that not only employs unemployed people but which produces something that the country actually needs and which can facilitate further economic activity. A new Presidential helicopter can not enable new economic activity the same way a few billion dollars worth of Solar Panels or a new high speed rail line or some intensive volcano monitoring will.

http://www.wbng.com/news/local/42535277.html

Meh wouldn't those jobs go away when the other 100 or so planes were finished being built in a couple of years anyway? (actually, no, they would just be rolled into another major multi-billion dollar defense project, it has no beginning and no end)

Weren't you the one who was recently saying that it didn't matter how wasteful that spending was as long as it was spending when we were talking about government spending?

 

all government spending is good spending. until their messiah tells them otherwise. basically whatever Obama wants to do, no matter how inconsistent it is with previous statements of theirs, is where they are going to stand on any issue.

all government spending is good spending. until their messiah tells them otherwise. basically whatever Obama wants to do, no matter how inconsistent it is with previous statements of theirs, is where they are going to stand on any issue.

You know, sometimes I don't even know why I bother.

Like I said, it's better stimulus than a tax cut. But, the most effective stimulus is going to be something that not only employs unemployed people but which produces something that the country actually needs and which can facilitate further economic activity. A new Presidential helicopter can not enable new economic activity the same way a few billion dollars worth of Solar Panels or a new high speed rail line or some intensive volcano monitoring will.

 

i'd rather have the jets instead of volcano monitoring

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You know, sometimes I don't even know why I bother.

 

what did you expect from the GOP thread

 

Like I said, it's better stimulus than a tax cut. But, the most effective stimulus is going to be something that not only employs unemployed people but which produces something that the country actually needs and which can facilitate further economic activity. A new Presidential helicopter can not enable new economic activity the same way a few billion dollars worth of Solar Panels or a new high speed rail line or some intensive volcano monitoring will.

 

But its shovel ready!

Actually, it is a dialect of German, with its own differences, recognized nationally by Austria as their language.

 

they speak german in austria.

 

I don't think there is any 'Austrian' language. Thats like someone saying 'I speak American!', when quoted person actually speaks english.

 

But its shovel ready!

So are many of the things that Gates wants to shift funds in to. He's actually increasing defense spending with his budget, just using it better.

they speak german in austria.

 

I don't think there is any 'Austrian' language. Thats like someone saying 'I speak American!', when quoted person actually speaks english.

That was pointed out, but, as I've been told, its not the same German as in Germany. Now, that could mean something as subtle as American English, as you said. Or it could be more so, like Quebequois (horribly misspelled I am sure), or variations of Spanish, or who knows what. I was just pointing out that there is a difference.

 

In any case, it was just a trivia thing, something I had encountered in a business setting. They may have been exagerrating the extent of the dialectic differences.

 

Carry on.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagoje...-040709.article

 

Ethics board launches probe into Rep Jesse Jackson Jr.

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April 7, 2009

BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter

 

A congressional ethics board has launched a preliminary inquiry into U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), related to President Obama's vacant Senate seat and the corruption investigation of ousted Gov. Rod Blagojevich, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

 

The Office of Congressional Ethics, formed just last year, voted in late March to conduct a "preliminary review" of actions surrounding Jackson's bid to be appointed to the Senate seat, according to documents released to parties involved in the probe. The revelation means Jackson is the second member of the Illinois delegation undergoing an ethical review related to the Blagojevich scandal. The U.S. Senate ethics committee is investigating U.S. Sen. Roland Burris.

 

The Office of Congressional Ethics has launched an inquiry into Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) related to President Obama's vacant Senate seat and the corruption investigation into ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

 

The committee probing Jackson launched its action Thursday -- the same day Blagojevich was indicted on corruption charges.

 

The panel has asked parties in the Blagojevich case -- including his former gubernatorial staff and campaign staff -- to turn over any documents, e-mails, or other correspondence involving Jackson Jr. and his campaign staff; Jackson's brother, Jonathan, and political fund-raisers Raghuveer Nayak and Rajinder Bedi, lawyers close to the probe told the Sun-Times. The request for information is from June of last year through Dec. 31, 2008.

 

Nayak, Bedi and Jonathan Jackson attended a Dec. 6 fund-raiser hosted by the Indian community for Friends of Blagojevich. People attending the event have told the Sun-Times that discussions about future fund-raising for Rep. Jackson's Senate candidacy took place at the function. The ex-governor was arrested three days later on accusations that he tried to sell the Senate seat appointment, among other charges.

 

Jesse Jackson Jr. has not been accused of wrongdoing in the Blagojevich case. He was referred to as "Candidate A" in the indictment of Blagojevich and was recently interviewed by the feds. Blagojevich believed he would be paid $1.5 million through Jackson Jr. "emissaries" if he named Jackson to the Senate seat, according to the federal charges.

 

A federal criminal complaint alleges that the ex-governor told his brother in a recorded call to meet with Nayak, referred to as "Individual D," to ask about giving money upfront for Jackson's appointment. The next day the ex-governor told his own brother to "undo that [Nayak] thing" after reports surfaced that the feds could be recording conversations, according to the criminal complaint against Blagojevich.

 

Nayak has since been in discussions with federal investigators.

 

The ethics panel typically investigates a matter for 30 days before making a recommendation to the House members' chief ethics panel, the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct. That committee can take action, refuse action or continue the probe.

 

Leo Wise, who heads the Office of Congressional Ethics, said he could not confirm or deny the existence of any investigation. His nonpartisan panel, made up of private citizens, was created by the House last year to review allegations against its members. Judge Abner Mikva is among those on the panel.

 

"We're a fact-gathering, investigative entity," Wise said. He explained that the panel does not have subpoena abilities but the House dictated powers allowing it to interview witnesses and request documents.

 

The office has no power to compel cooperation.

 

A spokesman for Rep. Jackson did not return a call seeking comment. Jonathan Jackson also did not respond to a request for comment.

 

The Senate ethics committee launched an inquiry into Burris' appointment by Blagojevich. Burris has given conflicting answers about his contacts with the former governor and his campaign operation before the appointment.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagoje...-040709.article

Good.

 

Good.

It'd be especially good to know the results of that before the Senate Seat comes up for primary challenges next year.

Noted plagerist and exagerator, Joltin' Joe Biden, claims he taked smack to the Pres all the time in the oval office, for hours! Um, dont' think so Joe, as you were never alone with the Pres, or in the oval office. Try again.

 

http://rpc.blogrolling.com/redirect.php?r=...blogspot.com%2F

 

 

anyone see that video of the college student asking Barney Frank a question?

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/200...er_economy.html

 

My gosh, how is that loser Frank still in office? I'm sure that college student who asked Frank a "tough" question is a homophobe as well.

anyone see that video of the college student asking Barney Frank a question?

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/200...er_economy.html

 

My gosh, how is that loser Frank still in office? I'm sure that college student who asked Frank a "tough" question is a homophobe as well.

 

how long until before mentioned college student is accused of inciting hatred and violence. how dare you question a Democrat!!!

 

 

Noted plagerist and exagerator, Joltin' Joe Biden, claims he taked smack to the Pres all the time in the oval office, for hours! Um, dont' think so Joe, as you were never alone with the Pres, or in the oval office. Try again.

 

http://rpc.blogrolling.com/redirect.php?r=...blogspot.com%2F

Actually, Biden said in ONE meeting, he told Bush "no one is following you" in response to Bush saying he's a leader. It was one time, and could have happened at a number of meetings, he never said he was "alone" with Bush like Rove said he did, and the odds are Rove wasnt present at all of the meetings... even though he likes to think he was really the president.

Actually, Biden said in ONE meeting, he told Bush "no one is following you" in response to Bush saying he's a leader. It was one time, and could have happened at a number of meetings, he never said he was "alone" with Bush like Rove said he did, and the odds are Rove wasnt present at all of the meetings... even though he likes to think he was really the president.

 

 

But I do believe Rove said there was always someone in the room taking notes on the said "meeting(s)".

But I do believe Rove said there was always someone in the room taking notes on the said "meeting(s)".

he said there we people there to log the attendance. Notes? yes, but not every word.

I can just picture the official record keeper: "Dude, Biden just TOTALLY ripped the Presidentz leadership skills".

 

he said there we people there to log the attendance. Notes? yes, but not every word.

I can just picture the official record keeper: "Dude, Biden just TOTALLY ripped the Presidentz leadership skills".

If Biden actually said this, with anyone else present in the room, you know full well that it would have come out at that time, since everyone on the left was in full BDS. No way it just sits there forgot until Joltin' Joe decides to make it up, oops, I mean bring it up for a CNN interview years later. Do you seriously want to go to the mat defending Joe's recollections given his history of exagerations and outright lies?

Scary, only 37% of people under 30 support capitalism, while 33% support socialism. The other 30% is apparently clueless.

Scary, only 37% of people under 30 support capitalism, while 33% support socialism. The other 30% is apparently clueless.

And I would contend that the 33% that support socialism is even more clueless. And, a lot of people polled under 30 probably don't even know what it all means, anyway. This was discussed in the Dem thread, very nicely, I might add.