I know nothing about these pitchers. DeRosa was pretty good with the Cubs although I feel a dropoff is ahead.

fits right in with the rest of those PED toons.

 

So Hendry might turn Marquis, SteroiDosa, and trash for Bradley, Peavy, Miles, and Vizcaino.

 

Not too shabby I suppose.

Makes sense for the Cubs. DeRosa had a career year last year; he's unlikely to repeat those numbers. Might as well sell high.

fits right in with the rest of those PED toons.

 

So Hendry might turn Marquis, SteroiDosa, and trash for Bradley, Peavy, Miles, and Vizcaino.

 

Not too shabby I suppose.

How does this help them get Peavy? They are trying to save money to sign Bradley and that should eat a big chunk of their payroll and they still have crap to trade for Peavy.

BTW, DeRosa is really good and I hate to have him in Cle, and the Cubs will miss him a TON.

BTW, DeRosa is really good and I hate to have him in Cle, and the Cubs will miss him a TON.

Supposedly one of the pitchers is a decent prospect. A good enough piece of crap Hendry could pawn off in a package with more garbage for an ace.

looks like a setup for the peavy deal.

Supposedly one of the pitchers is a decent prospect. A good enough piece of crap Hendry could pawn off in a package with more garbage for an ace.

 

The Indians have nothing in their system pitching wise that the Cubs could have received that would be the difference maker in them landing Peavy.

I think Levine is reporting on the Score that Bradley to the Cubs is a done deal. This would bother me if he wasn't a virtual lock to miss at least half the season.

Levine works for ESPN.

 

 

Some interesting moves by the Cubs. Sullivan was just on The Score, and thinks Miles could lead off for the Cubs, and talked about how well liked and important DeRosa was in the clubhouse. They just removed him from the equation, and brought in a huge wild card in Bradley.

 

I don't know why I said Score. I did hear Murph say Miles is a good defender and legitimate leadoff hitter. lol. What a dumbass.

Edited December 31, 200817 yr by Jordan4life

Wow, the Cubs just traded their only clubhouse leader, their most versatile player, their most popular players with the fans and got no name value in return. The cubs fans are gonna love this.

I don't know why I said Score. I did hear Murph say Miles is a good defender and legitimate leadoff hitter. lol. What a dumbass.

 

 

Well, I can't see Miles holding up over an entire year at 2B and leading off. He's not a stolen base threat, if he ever was one to begin with. There has to be more behind this move than just Bradley and minor leaguers, although seemingly their LH bat and leadoff problems are 50% solved theoretically. Although Fontenot will perhaps figure more into the equation now as well.

 

I guess one can look at selling DeRosa "high" in the same light as the Sox potentially dealing Dye.

 

And I guess this puts the Josh Barfield Era officially to an end in Cleveland.

Levine works for ESPN.

 

 

Some interesting moves by the Cubs. Sullivan was just on The Score, and thinks Miles could lead off for the Cubs, and talked about how well liked and important DeRosa was in the clubhouse. They just removed him from the equation, and brought in a huge wild card in Bradley.

The Cubs now have Bradley and Zambrano in the same clubhouse. Consider that for a minute.

 

The Cubs now have Bradley and Zambrano in the same clubhouse. Consider that for a minute.

I smell sitcom....

1) First, you trade Jose Ceda, our closer of the future who was "untouchable" in a Roberts deal last year, for Kevin Gregg, who led the NL in blown saves last year. He's going to battle Marmol now to be our closer?

 

2) Then you let Wood go, saying we don't have money while you try to trade for a pitcher we don't need (see below) and who was hurt for a time last year who makes much more than Wood wanted. You didn't even offer arbitration, costing us a draft pick.

 

3) You try to trade everyone we have left (including Josh Vitters, who is all we have left in the minors)for Jake Peavy who was hurt last year, makes a ton of money that we supposedly don't have to pay him, and who would give us (at that time) 7 starters. You offer up everything, including spinning DeRosa into the deal, even though you were dealing from advantage and should have been controlling the deal from day one.

 

4) You trade DeRosa for three worthless pitchers, who the media says aren't even going for Peavy anymore, to give Fontenot and Aaron Miles a chance to play. I like Fontenot, but he's no Mark DeRosa and by playing every day he takes one of our best weapons off the bench. You wanted to get rid of his $5 million salary? So you sign Aaron Miles to make half that for a total net savings of $2.5 million. Book the cruise....

 

5) You sign Joey Gathright, who is the equivalent of if Tom Goodwin (during his Cubs days) and Felix Pie had a child.

 

6) You are on the verge of signing Milton Bradley, a DH, to play right field and who won't play more than 110 games next year and who you will be trying to dump his contract off (while paying a good amount of his salary) by the following offseason. You won't even discuss Adam Dunn, who would probably take a lower pay to play for the Cubs and who would give us power to replace DeRosa's, who you threw away to the Indians for nothing.

 

So Mr. Hendry, unless you are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat now and actually improve this team, then on behalf of Cubs fans everywhere, we are very disappointed. My wife doesn't even want to go to the Cubs Convention anymore, and I don't blame her.

 

from chicagotribune message boards....loved this rant, especially #5

Edited January 1, 200917 yr by caulfield12

That guy will still pay $400 for two upper-deck tickets against the Cardinals.

Forget the Cubs, I think this is a great pick-up for the Indians, and I don't like it.

DeRosa is going to be 34, his career OPS is .770 and he's going to the very competitive American League...I think his best offensive days are behind him. An upgrade from A. Cabrera and Josh Barfield? For sure, but he's also a pretty weak defender and that infield has all kinds of question marks to me with Peralta at 3B, Cabrera at SS, DeRosa at 2B and Hafner/Martinez/Garko at 1B.

 

That might be the worst defensive infield in baseball today. With their pitching, it's a far cry from Alomar and Vizquel up the middle.

This has not been a good off-season to be a Cubs fan. Derosa may be getting on in age, but he's better then anything else the Indians have got, and his versatility will benefit them a lot more now that Blake is out of the picture for a whole season. As for the Cubs, Little Mikey Fontenot has proven himself a good bench player, but no one knows how he might do for a whole season. And Aaron Miles? If he's get more then 350 at-bats I think that'll be very unfortunate for the Cubs.

Cue the Roberts to Cubs speculation. Almost as annoying as the Konerko/Figgins annual storyline, Willy Taveras or Peavy to the Cubs talk.

That guy will still pay $400 for two upper-deck tickets against the Cardinals.

He already has his nice cubs visor layed out for opening day next season.

DeRosa is going to be 34, his career OPS is .770 and he's going to the very competitive American League...I think his best offensive days are behind him. An upgrade from A. Cabrera and Josh Barfield? For sure, but he's also a pretty weak defender and that infield has all kinds of question marks to me with Peralta at 3B, Cabrera at SS, DeRosa at 2B and Hafner/Martinez/Garko at 1B.

 

That might be the worst defensive infield in baseball today. With their pitching, it's a far cry from Alomar and Vizquel up the middle.

 

DeRosa is going to play 3B for them. From 3B to 1B - DeRosa-Peralta-Cabrera-Garko

 

Still really not that pretty, but it's probably better than with DeRosa at 2B.

Obviously the Marte and Barfield experiments didn't work out so well.

 

I think they'll really miss Blake, although DeRosa is a good substitute. Both are versatile, veteran, offense-minded players. Peralta just seems like a pending disaster at SS as he keeps growing, putting on weight. I won't label him the reincarnated equivalent of Viciedo at SS exactly, but he's about as mobile as Tom Brady these days. Garko's one of those streaky players that looks to be on the verge of playing himself off the team one year (due to his lack of typical 1B power numbers), but he's an RBI machine. The main problem is that Victor Martinez is also a DH, so you're either stuck with Hafner or a very lousy catcher, probably the worst in the baseball. It will be interesting to see what Flowers gives us from that spot in a couple of years...or if he also moves to 1B/DH. I guess keeping Peralta and Cabrera as the DP combination seemed the more logical way to go. Still the only "power" hitter on that infield is Peralta (for his position), and he's really a 3B now. It's just that DeRosa will cause less damage at 3B than 2B, I guess.

Edited January 2, 200917 yr by caulfield12

Makes sense for the Cubs. DeRosa had a career year last year; he's unlikely to repeat those numbers. Might as well sell high.

 

A career year? Looks about the same as the previous two, the only difference showing is the jump in homeruns, but its only 8 more.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/derosma01.shtml