Sometimes when you want something from some other country that is your ally since your existence as a country, you don't just tell them to f*** off and do what we say, or we'll just do it ourselves! It really wasn't effective at all - in any way.

Sometimes when you want something from some other country that is your ally since your existence as a country, you don't just tell them to f*** off and do what we say, or we'll just do it ourselves! It really wasn't effective at all - in any way.

Well, to be fair, France told us to f*** off on Iraq because they were in bed with Saddam for billions on the oil for food program. I wonder why they told us that, then? *shocker*, huh?

 

 

the part of the country that would resist making it illegal to toss bowling balls off an overpass if Obama signed a law for it

 

haha

Well, to be fair, France told us to f*** off on Iraq because they were in bed with Saddam for billions on the oil for food program. I wonder why they told us that, then? *shocker*, huh?

And no U.S. company backed the invasion that stood to gain from it either. They were all 100% patriots.

And no U.S. company backed the invasion that stood to gain from it either. They were all 100% patriots.

 

France was illegally skirting sanctions/ embargoes on the country and didn't want the gravy train to end. It's a little different in my eyes.

 

Back on topic, this is a step in the right direction. Just end this stupid, failed embargo once and for all.

no spin this as bad for Obama

no spin this as bad for Obama

Most of the people against it hardly ever voted Democratic anyway.

 

The Cuban-Americans tend to vote with the Republicans.

And no U.S. company backed the invasion that stood to gain from it either. They were all 100% patriots.

 

Of course! If the GOP did it, it has to be shennanigans and all tied to special interests and big corporations. The Democrats never do that!

Of course! If the GOP did it, it has to be shennanigans and all tied to special interests and big corporations. The Democrats never do that!

So, in other words, the dastardly French are no better than your beloved GOP. That's all I'm trying to get you to say.

Kap likes the GOP now? I didn't get that memo.

Kap likes the GOP now? I didn't get that memo.

I'm not allowed to challenge Kaperbole with similar (insert random prefix involving my name)-bole?

I'm not allowed to challenge Kaperbole with similar (insert random prefix involving my name)-bole?

Touche. Carry on.

Touche. Carry on.

(Goes and finds a dishwasher to play with).

Balterbole?

There's always a bulls*** reason for anything. Eventually, you have to parse that out and not take everything the MSM throws at you for face value.

Cant wait to see the GOP response.

The GOP reviews are in... some positive, some negative.

Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, R-Fla. and Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., called Obama’s move a “serious mistake” and a reward to a dictatorship that has recently increased its repression of pro-democracy activists. “President Obama has committed a serious mistake by unilaterally increasing Cuban-American travel and remittance dollars for the Cuban dictatorship,” the two congressmen, who are brothers, said in a joint statement. “Unilateral concessions to the dictatorship embolden it to further isolate, imprison and brutalize pro-democracy activists, to continue to dictate which Cubans and Cuban-Americans are able to enter the island, and this unilateral concession provides the dictatorship with critical financial support,” the two said in their statement.

 

U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez, who is also Cuban-American, praised Obama’s plan.

 

"It's going to bring families together," Martinez, R-Fla., told the Associated Press. But Martinez, too, said he was concerned some in the United States might abuse the open door travel policy as a guise to conduct business in Cuba.

 

"It would be good if the remittances had some boundaries. Otherwise it could be a windfall to the Cuban government," he said.

 

"Will they now curtail the 20 percent they take on remittances? Will they now allow more of the Cuban families who are denied permission to travel abroad?" he asked, according to the AP.

 

U.S. Rep. Connie Mack, R-Fla, said Obama should have worked to strengthen family ties on the island, but without taking unilateral steps.

 

“Instead, Congress should vigorously debate these and other ideas before any substantive policy changes are implemented,” Mack said. “None of us should be satisfied, however, until the Cuban people are free and the Castro regime is but a footnote of history.”

Edited April 14, 200917 yr by Athomeboy_2000

I think we all know what would have happened in Congress with a bill like that...

 

I expected the most extreme views to come from FLA., i guess it shows how much support this had, or rather, how little anyone cared about the Cuban embargo anymore.

Balterbole?

 

doesn't have the same ring to it