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White Sox @ Twins 7/28 Game Thread

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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:03 AM)
I guess it depends on who else is on the team.

 

Some people might question having Mauer bat second, but it makes sense that you would want to get your two best hitters at bat in the first.

 

I also noticed Beckham isn't pointing his bat as forward anymore and has his hands in closer, so that should help him hit the inside fastball better. It's so refreshing to see young players making the right adjustments.

 

He really reminds me so much of Michael Young

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:02 PM)
In a perfect world, Getz is your #9 hitter and that gives you some excellent speed when the order turns over. I still don't think Danks is a top of the order hitter, and more likely to be in the 7th or 8th spot.

 

I could see Danks as a no. 5 hitter if he develops power. However, it seems like with us and outfield prospects, that's a big if.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 04:04 AM)
I could see Danks as a no. 5 hitter if he develops power. However, it seems like with us and outfield prospects, that's a big if.

 

The answer to that would be that we don't buff our minor leaguers up with performance enhancers like other organizations do.

I think KW should try to get a solid 3B and move Beckham to SS and Alexei back to 2B and Getz to the bench, minors or anywhere else....

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:02 PM)
In a perfect world, Getz is your #9 hitter and that gives you some excellent speed when the order turns over. I still don't think Danks is a top of the order hitter, and more likely to be in the 7th or 8th spot.

 

Well as you know everything can change in 2+ years in this buisness. That's why I was pointing out whomever in regards to it. This guy can actually change a god damn philosophy in this organization with his ability to drive in runs, and hit doubles without relying on stealing bases to get in scoring position. It can be 1-0 or 2-0 before the 3 hitter even gets a chance to bat in the first inning.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:06 AM)
I think KW should try to get a solid 3B and move Beckham to SS and Alexei back to 2B and Getz to the bench, minors or anywhere else....

 

Ozzie's too stubborn to move Alexei back to 2nd base.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 11:04 PM)
Getz = sucks

Getz made a horrible play but that doesn't mean he sucks anymore than Wise's great catch makes him good.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:06 PM)
I think KW should try to get a solid 3B and move Beckham to SS and Alexei back to 2B and Getz to the bench, minors or anywhere else....

 

Your logic makes too much sense. Hell I'd preach putting Alexei in CF next year.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:07 AM)
Getz made a horrible play but that doesn't mean he sucks anymore than Wise's great catch makes him good.

 

I just think he's not very good. It also seems like he never draws walks anymore. He might be a decent player for the Pirates or Nationals, but he sure seems like a weak link if you want to have a strong lineup.

Getz would be my 2nd baseman and 9/8 hitter...even after today's blunder. I realize s*** happens....and Getz doesn't make errors like that s*** even occasionally. But most of the other players (PK excluded) tend to f*** up every other game or so on defense somehow.

 

Getz is not our problem...he's a rookie not doing a half bad job this year. We have other issues to be concerned with.

 

 

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:08 AM)
Your logic makes too much sense. Hell I'd preach putting Alexei in CF next year.

 

If you put him at 2nd, Beckham at SS, and sign Chone to play 3rd, then you're putting together an Ozzie style offense. Also, who else thinks KW will go balls out to get Carl Crawford this offseason?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:07 PM)
Ozzie's too stubborn to move Alexei back to 2nd base.

 

Is it just me, or does it make a LOT of sense to move Alexei to CF in the offseason. If he can play a solid CF with his offensive production, doesn't that answer a huge hole we've had since 2005?

QUOTE (onedude @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:10 AM)
Getz would be my 2nd baseman and 9/8 hitter...even after today's blunder. I realize s*** happens....and Getz doesn't make errors like that s*** even occasionally. But most of the other players (PK excluded) tend to f*** up every other game or so on defense somehow.

 

Getz has been pretty bad defensively this year. Even when he shows good range to his left, he takes too long to get the runner out.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:11 AM)
Is it just me, or does it make a LOT of sense to move Alexei to CF in the offseason. If he can play a solid CF with his offensive production, doesn't that answer a huge hole we've had since 2005?

 

Matters how soon they think JorDanks will be up. I'm probably JorDanks biggest non-fan though, so probably a bad judge on the situation.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:07 PM)
Getz made a horrible play but that doesn't mean he sucks anymore than Wise's great catch makes him good.

No, but that horrible play coupled with his average at best arm and his mediocre defense in general does. The only thing Getz does really well is get down the line to first base quickly. He's a nice 25th man to have on the bench but not good enough to be a starter on team that doesn't have overwhelming talent at all the other positions.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:09 PM)
I just think he's not very good. It also seems like he never draws walks anymore. He might be a decent player for the Pirates or Nationals, but he sure seems like a weak link if you want to have a strong lineup.

 

If Nix can develop into a more consistent offensive player, I'd have no problem with a Getz-Nix platoon at 2B. Good defense, good speed, Getz has shown he is quite clutch, and Nix has some good pop. I would have no problem with that in the 9-hole.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 04:13 AM)
If Nix can develop into a more consistent offensive player, I'd have no problem with a Getz-Nix platoon at 2B. Good defense, good speed, Getz has shown he is quite clutch, and Nix has some good pop. I would have no problem with that in the 9-hole.

 

I totally agree, but you have to upgrade in CF next year. AJP should be the #8 hitter next season.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:10 PM)
If you put him at 2nd, Beckham at SS, and sign Chone to play 3rd, then you're putting together an Ozzie style offense. Also, who else thinks KW will go balls out to get Carl Crawford this offseason?

If you play 81 games at the Cell you cannot get to speed happy and need to focus on the power. I'm not against getting speedier, but they need to keep boppers in the middle of the lineup

I just hope next season we rid ourselves of at least 2 of the slow softball style players....

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QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:15 AM)
If you play 81 games at the Cell you cannot get to speed happy and need to focus on the power. I'm not against getting speedier, but they need to keep boppers in the middle of the lineup

 

It's Ozzie though

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:10 PM)
If you put him at 2nd, Beckham at SS, and sign Chone to play 3rd, then you're putting together an Ozzie style offense. Also, who else thinks KW will go balls out to get Carl Crawford this offseason?

 

Carl Crawford makes a lot of sense. A 1-2 of Chone and Crawford would be exactly what Ozzie has always wanted, probably since his days in Florida with Pierre and Castillo at the top of the lineup.

terrible road trip so far, but that shows how terrible this division is that the Sox have lost a grand total of 2 games over this stretch.

 

The more I see of the Twins, Tigers and Sox, the more I'm convinced these teams will mill around each other for the rest of the year

People have been drooling over Crawford forever now...

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 03:15 AM)
I just next season we rid ourselves of at least 2 of the slow softball style players....

 

Really, really want to see Thome gone, and I also think Dye's not likely to return. That's 70 homers you have to replace, but we can potentially upgrade our outfield defense while getting solid production for half the cost.

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