August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) Just say no to Pods. With Rios in CF and Quentin in LF, there's no room for Pods. He's going to get 3-5 million this offseason, and with his mediocre defense and bad base running, he's just not worth that. bad base STEALING, yes. But as for getting on base with his speed, taking extra bases, tagging, etc., he's actually still a plus baserunner in my view. But in general I agree, he probably has no place on the 2010 team, though you never know what changes may occur in the plan for KW.
August 11, 200916 yr Author QUOTE (Baines3 @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 02:28 PM) There is a possibility Thome will retire. I think Dye will be the DH next year. Thome will pursue 600
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 02:16 PM) Replace Thome with Dye and I agree completely. I know people have a soft spot for Thome, but while Dye may cost more $$$, he's a better all around hitter. +1
August 11, 200916 yr If I had $15mil to spend I would offer Abreu $9 and Winn $3, then spend the rest on relief pitching. RF Winn 3B Beckham DH Abreu LF Quentin 1B Konerko CA Pierzynski CF Rios SS Ramirez 2B Getz That's 4-6 possible .300 hitters, more speed and more consistency.
August 11, 200916 yr If you could somehow add a player similar to the likes of chone figgins... sexy kinda
August 11, 200916 yr Author Replace Thome with Dye and I agree completely. I know people have a soft spot for Thome, but while Dye may cost more $$$, he's a better all around hitter. Thats a lot coming from a thome boy I agree, although if Thome is ridiculously cheap due to good teams already having a DH.... and the fact that he can chase 600 in a HR-friendly park (while close to Peoria) Then maybe enough stars align for the Sox to take him and they can spend the savings elsewhere
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) Just say no to Pods. With Rios in CF and Quentin in LF, there's no room for Pods. He's going to get 3-5 million this offseason, and with his mediocre defense and bad base running, he's just not worth that. ^^^ this exactly. Also as much as pods helped the team thus far this year....does anyone really think he's likely to repeat what he did?
August 11, 200916 yr I have an idea. Be prepared to rip it to pieces. Let Thome, Dye, and Pods walk. Trade for Casey Kotchman and stick him at 1B, move PK to DH, and have an OF of Figgins/Rios/Quentin (in whatever order). Figgins LF/CF Rios LF/CF Beckham 3B Kotchman 1B Konerko 1B Pierzynski C Quentin RF Ramirez SS Getz 2B Or like fathom said, trade for Pierre, though I'm not too fond of his huge deal. Edited August 11, 200916 yr by whitesoxbrian
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) Thats a lot coming from a thome boy I agree, although if Thome is ridiculously cheap due to good teams already having a DH.... and the fact that he can chase 600 in a HR-friendly park (while close to Peoria) Then maybe enough stars align for the Sox to take him and they can spend the savings elsewhere The Sox are in a possition right now where they may be better off signing Pods and Thome to 1 year deals and letting Dye walk. With guys like Jared Mitchell, Jordan Danks, Tyler Flowers and Dayan Viciedo waiting in the wings. If they do that you'll have Thome, Pods, AJ and Konerko coming off the books. THe only player out of that list i see coming back is Konerko. I'm hoping Viciedo will be ready for next season. If that happens we could perhaps center a package around Chris Getz for a young starter such as Zach Duke. I wouldn't mind this at all: Pods LF * Beckham SS Rios CF Thome DH * Konerko 1B * Quentin RF Pierzynski C* Ramirez 2B Viciedo 3B *= last year of deal. Peavy, Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, Duke= WOW!!!
August 11, 200916 yr Author I have an idea. Be prepared to rip it to pieces. Let Thome, Dye, and Pods walk. Trade for Casey Kotchman and stick him at 1B, move PK to DH, and have an OF of Figgins/Rios/Quentin (in whatever order). Hey the outside the box thinking is eventually what KW will do, one way or another. By 2011 we wont recognize two of our 3-4-5 hitters somehow Edited August 11, 200916 yr by Princess Dye
August 11, 200916 yr First thing i would do if i was KW in the offseason is the following. Buy out Dye and offer ARB, chances are he turns it down and goes for one more multi year deal before calling it a career and if not no Harm no Foul. Off ARB to Dotel, the market for relivers this year looks to be thin, if he accepts we keep depth in our bullpen and if not we get potential picks. Sign Jim Thome to a one year deal with a club option for '11 4m for each year with incentives to make it up to 12m with a 500 or 800k buy out If Dye Declines and Bobby Abreu hits the market offer him a two year deal similar to Thomes, If Dye declines and Abreu isn't available offer podsednik a 1 year deal as a stop gap for Danks/Mitchell. Keep AJ and Jenks unless you can get a good return on them. Ideal Line up. 2010 2011 2012 L Abreu LF/RF L Getz 2B L Getz OF R Rios CF R Rios CF R Rios OF R Beckham 3B R Beckham 3B R Beckham 3B R Quentin RF/LF R Quentin RF/LF R Quentin DH L Thome DH L Abreu DH L Danks OF R Konerko 1B R Flowers C R Flowers C L Pierzynski C R Viciedo 1B R Viciedo 1B R Ramirez SS R Ramirez SS R Ramirez SS L Getz 2B L Danks RF/LF L Mitchell OF SP Buehrle SP Peavy SP Floyd SP Danks SP Hudson CL Jenks SU Thornton SU Pena MR Linebrink MR Nunez/Torres LO ? LR Carrasco Edited August 11, 200916 yr by beautox
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (beautox @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) First thing i would do if i was KW in the offseason is the following. Buy out Dye and offer ARB, chances are he turns it down and goes for one more multi year deal before calling it a career and if not no Harm no Foul. Off ARB to Dotel, the market for relivers this year looks to be thin, if he accepts we keep depth in our bullpen and if not we get potential picks. Sign Jim Thome to a one year deal with a club option for '11 4m for each year with incentives to make it up to 12m with a 500 or 800k buy out If Dye Declines and Bobby Abreu hits the market offer him a two year deal similar to Thomes, If Dye declines and Abreu isn't available offer podsednik a 1 year deal as a stop gap for Danks/Mitchell. Keep AJ and Jenks unless you can get a good return on them. Ideal Line up. 2010 2011 2012 L Abreu LF/RF L Getz 2B L Getz OF R Rios CF R Rios CF R Rios OF R Beckham 3B R Beckham 3B R Beckham 3B R Quentin RF/LF R Quentin RF/LF R Quentin DH L Thome DH L Abreu DH L Danks OF R Konerko 1B R Flowers C R Flowers C L Pierzynski C R Viciedo 1B R Viciedo 1B R Ramirez SS R Ramirez SS R Ramirez SS L Getz 2B L Danks RF/LF L Mitchell OF SP Buehrle SP Peavy SP Floyd SP Danks SP Hudson CL Jenks SU Thornton SU Pena MR Linebrink MR Nunez/Torres LO ? LR Carrasco We have no 2B in 2012, FYI. Why does Danks become a middle-of-the-order guy? He doesn't have much power. IMO, Getz will never bat lead off over Mitchell or Danks. Mitchell and Danks will probably both have higher OBP than Getz at the ML level.
August 11, 200916 yr I wouldn't be surprised to see Konerko moved and Dye re-signed at a cheaper rate to play 1b. Send him in a package to SF for Sanchez and Brian Wilson. Sanchez could be either a candidate for the 5th starter or a bullpen arm. Wilson could either allow the Sox to move Jenks or have a lights outs 7-8-9 combo of Thornton, Wilson, Jenks. Konerko's freed up money could be used for Figgins. As for Thome, i think they'll bring him back at a reduced rate as well but i'd rather have Hank Blalock assuming the LH power hitter role. But i can't see KW signing Figgins and Blalock. I think it will be one of those two though. As far as the #5 starter spot goes, Freddy Garcia or another veteran (Duscherer) could be used to fill that spot until Hudson is ready. My lineup for 2010: LF-Figgins 3B-Beckham CF-Rios DH-Thome 1B-Dye RF-Quentin C-AJ SS-Ramirez 2B-Getz bench-Flowers, Nix, Wise, Kotsay SP-Peavy SP-Buehrle SP-Floyd SP-Danks SP-Duscherer RP-Linebrink RP-Sanchez RP-Pena RP-Nunez RP-Thornton RP-Wilson CL-Jenks
August 11, 200916 yr This is what I would go for in the offseason... 2B Beckham CF Rios RF Quentin DH Thome 1B Konerko 3B Blalock SS Ramirez C AJ LF Pods I would resign Pods since he would probably be relatively cheap.. If he can't repeat his solid average and OBP (which he most likely won't), i would stick him lower in the order. He would be a decent enough player to have, considering he will be cheap. With a near .900 OSP, Jim Thome is one of our best offensive weapons. i would bring him back. Always nice to have a power lefty. Plus he would have a chance at 600 homeruns. This would sell a good amount of tickets and make some good publicity. Hank Blalock, now this guy is the wild card. He has been suffering injuries the past few years. When he is healthy, he is a good power lefty. Two powerful lefties makes me cum (and it probably makes ozzie cum too). This is assuming he doesnt have any bad injuries though. After all, we have a miracle worker on our staff. Herm is the greatest. This is what I imagine the lineup looking like 2B Beckham CF Rios RF Quentin DH Thome 1B Konerko 3B Blalock SS Ramirez C AJ LF Pods A solid mix of lefties and righties. I think this lineup would great. Edited August 11, 200916 yr by son of a rude
August 11, 200916 yr I'll go ahead and throw this out there... Pods isn't brought back...we look at Lex to be our leadoff hitter next year...
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) I'm hoping Viciedo will be ready for next season. I'm hoping he is too because I can't imagine us all being fond of paying him this kind of money to sit in the minors.
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 06:06 PM) I wouldn't be surprised to see Konerko moved and Dye re-signed at a cheaper rate to play 1b. Send him in a package to SF for Sanchez and Brian Wilson. Sanchez could be either a candidate for the 5th starter or a bullpen arm. Wilson could either allow the Sox to move Jenks or have a lights outs 7-8-9 combo of Thornton, Wilson, Jenks. Konerko's freed up money could be used for Figgins. As for Thome, i think they'll bring him back at a reduced rate as well but i'd rather have Hank Blalock assuming the LH power hitter role. But i can't see KW signing Figgins and Blalock. I think it will be one of those two though. As far as the #5 starter spot goes, Freddy Garcia or another veteran (Duscherer) could be used to fill that spot until Hudson is ready. My lineup for 2010: LF-Figgins 3B-Beckham CF-Rios DH-Thome 1B-Dye RF-Quentin C-AJ SS-Ramirez 2B-Getz bench-Flowers, Nix, Wise, Kotsay SP-Peavy SP-Buehrle SP-Floyd SP-Danks SP-Duscherer RP-Linebrink RP-Sanchez RP-Pena RP-Nunez RP-Thornton RP-Wilson CL-Jenks If Flowers is in the Bigs, he won't be riding the bench.
August 11, 200916 yr I'll go ahead and throw this out there... Pods isn't brought back...we look at Lex to be our leadoff hitter next year... I just threw up in my mouth. Edited August 11, 200916 yr by son of a rude
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (son of a rude @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 06:20 PM) I just threw up in my mouth. I love your avatar. Edited August 11, 200916 yr by SoxAce
August 11, 200916 yr I threw up when you had Beckham batting 9th.. Jesus. BTW, I love your avatar. Thats not the lineup. I just put the players according to what position they will play. The lineup is lower in my post. Stephen A. is a god among men in the sports analyst business.
August 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (son of a rude @ Aug 11, 2009 -> 06:23 PM) Thats not the lineup. I just put the players according to what position they will play. The lineup is lower in my post. Looks like someone has quick fingers on replies. I figured it out when I read it further. Edited August 11, 200916 yr by SoxAce
August 11, 200916 yr I fixed it so it would look less confusing. Quite Frankly, that lineup would be everything but a debacle.
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