you guys are overreacting

From the official House of Representative floor rules:

Members must:

 

* Avoid characterizing another Member's personal intent or motives and discussing personalities.

 

* Refrain from speaking disrespectfully of the Speaker, other Members, the President or Vice President.

Anyways, it was a good speech..

"You LIE." You can argue about whether this should have been said in that forum, but i don't think anyone can disagree that, that took a lot of cajones to say.

 

 

The apology took 1.5 hours to come out.

 

I don't understand what these posts are referring to.

 

I don't understand what these posts are referring to.

On the live-stream I didn't catch what the heckler actually said. Was it "Liar!" or "You lie!" It was an ugly moment in the Congress and I don't remember anyone heckling a president's speech before. But it is, in fact, the GOP's current position. Their position is to demonize this man. Karl Rove's op-ed on the speech went up on the WSJ website before the speech was even over, declaring it a failure and nothing new.

 

But there was something clarifying about a Southern good ol' boy yelling "Liar" at the president over illegal immigration. That's what the GOP now is: the worst aspects of the old Democratic party combined with a nihilism that is only eclipsed by its catastrophic governance for the past eight years. Defeating these morons and actually creating a discourse for reform is what we elected Obama to do.

 

But they still insist on doing it to themselves, don't they? That's the silver lining.

 

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I could hardly read that with out gagging on the irony. Yes, the Republicians have some how invented demonizing the President. GMAB.

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I had forgotten about the speech last night, and now understand.

 

What a jackass. It doesn't take cajones to be an idiot in a crowd, it just means being loud with your stupidity.

 

I could hardly read that with out gagging on the irony. Yes, the Republicians have some how invented demonizing the President. GMAB.

Fortunately, no one said that. What the author did say, though, was right on.

 

There's no doubt that Joe Wilson will become a wingnut celebrity. Benen:

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Here's an illustration of this equation. The wingnuts might love him, but Wilson's opponent raised $41,000 last night based on Wilson's disrespectful outburst. $41,000 in a couple hours. Good job, Wilson!

 

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Not sure if this was brought up or not yet. Seems when Obama tried to tell us all that a woman had her insurance cancelled because of acne, he didn't tell us the whole truth. It was acne and a rapid heartbeat which she knowlingly concealed from her insurance company. But hey acne, rapid heartbeat, all the same, right?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...ft=1&f=1001

One of Barton's constituents, Robin Beaton of Waxahachie, Texas, did know that her health history included acne and a rapid heartbeat. But she didn't think they were relevant to her current health and left them off her application.

Her health insurance was still canceled because she had health care needs for completely unrelated issues.. That doesn't exactly make the health insurance industry look like less of douchebags.

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It just makes Obama a liar.

It just makes Obama a liar.

You better apologize for that. You have less then 1.5 hours.

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That's not inverse proportion, its direct proportion.

 

It just makes Obama a liar.

How is that the case? What exactly did Obama say?

 

That's not inverse proportion, its direct proportion.

 

Ironic.

UPDATE: The tally is up to $100,000 raised by Wilson's opponent.

I've only seen snippets of the speech, I'll have to see if I can find it on On Demand tonight and watch it. I want to see what he said about the acne lady, and hear the jackass from SC in full context, and see what all the hubub on this speech is about.

Awesome, nobody here is talking about substance of the speech, only semantic dumb s*** and faux outrage at the faux outrage.

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Awesome, nobody here is talking about substance of the speech, only semantic dumb s*** and faux outrage at the faux outrage.

I haven't seen it yet. That's my excuse.

Did 16 million people get health insurance since the last speech, or was he lying then, or is he lying now about the number of uninsured?

He said uninsured citizens this time.

http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275877.html

Just wondering, are these Scare tactics? or honest debate?:

 

...Our deficit will grow

 

...More families will go bankrupt

 

...More businesses will close

 

...More Americans will lose their coverage

 

...And more Americans will die

He said uninsured citizens this time.

 

 

So was he lying to make it seem like a larger problem in New Hampshire?