November 5, 200916 yr http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/f...s-handbook-2010 Tyler Flowers, C, 6.01, 275/353/476 Flowers got the proverbial cup of coffee with the White Sox at the end of season, netting 20 unspectacular plate appearances. Before that, though, he put up a great year across two levels. In particular, his .302/.445/.548 at Double-A Birmingham was impressive. He remains the heir apparent to A.J. Pierzynski, who enters the final year of his contract in 2010. If James’s projections are accurate, Flowers could be a contributor even before that.
November 5, 200916 yr Bill James tends to overproject, but i respect the hell out of that man, and hope like hell he's right on this.
November 5, 200916 yr If Tyler is truly capable of putting up a RC/27 of 6.01 in 2010 then the Vazquez trade was an incredible one and Tyler needs ABs because that's roughly what Konerko, Luke Scott and Michael Cuddyer did last year.
November 5, 200916 yr Today's activity supports my dream scenario Flowers can either catch or DH daily... with CJ Retherford as an emergency catcher (and other utility guy as it seems he'll now be) So AJP and TF can coexist regularly
November 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 06:09 PM) Today's activity supports my dream scenario Flowers can either catch or DH daily... with CJ Retherford as an emergency catcher (and other utility guy as it seems he'll now be) So AJP and TF can coexist regularly So your dream scenario involves filling an emergency catcher position?
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 12:46 AM) So your dream scenario involves filling an emergency catcher position? ? He wants to be able to play both AJ and TF on the same day. He's saying with CJ up we still would have a backup catcher in case AJ/TF whoever is at catcher, gets hurt.
November 6, 200916 yr He projected Chris Davis to hit .300 with 40 homers this year. James goes way overboard on the young players.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) He projected Chris Davis to hit .300 with 40 homers this year. James goes way overboard on the young players. The problem with Davis is that he just swings at everything. Flowers may strike out a lot, but he's also selective. Edited November 6, 200916 yr by chw42
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 08:15 PM) The problem with Davis is that he just swings at everything. Flowers may strike out a lot, but he's also selective. They have different swings too. David has a substantial dip in his, a prominent uppercut. Flowers cuts a bit more through the zone.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) He projected Chris Davis to hit .300 with 40 homers this year. James goes way overboard on the young players. Jaramillo screwed him up.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) Today's activity supports my dream scenario Flowers can either catch or DH daily... with CJ Retherford as an emergency catcher (and other utility guy as it seems he'll now be) So AJP and TF can coexist regularly If you have a catcher also DHing you need to carry 3 catchers on the roster. Retheford will not do.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:15 AM) The problem with Davis is that he just swings at everything. Flowers may strike out a lot, but he's also selective. Yeah! He is selective at what he swings at and misses. My guess is AAA, but nothing higher than back up to AJ in 2010. Being a back up and also being a developing prospect doesn't make sense so I am guessing AAA
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (everafan @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 08:36 PM) If you have a catcher also DHing you need to carry 3 catchers on the roster. Retheford will not do. Why won't Retherford do? He has caught before and your third catcher would at most catch a few innings in an emergency situation. The possibility of even needing the emergency catcher is pretty low anyway, It's not like he would be catching a game every week.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 07:41 AM) Why won't Retherford do? He has caught before and your third catcher would at most catch a few innings in an emergency situation. The possibility of even needing the emergency catcher is pretty low anyway, It's not like he would be catching a game every week. Bingo. You're right. Starting your backup catcher at DH is fine if you have someone who can catch in a pinch because as you said worst that would ever really happen is they'd have to catch a few innings. It's actually an ideal situation to have someone like that so you can use the other bat in the lineup if you so choose to.
November 6, 200916 yr The chance of Flowers needing to be taken out of a game seems rather remote and I could see a team risking a pitcher having to bat and only carrying two catchers.
November 6, 200916 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 09:58 AM) The chance of Flowers needing to be taken out of a game seems rather remote and I could see a team risking a pitcher having to bat and only carrying two catchers. I would be fine with carrying only two catchers if need be. If you have a guy at another position who can catch if absolutely necessary it's a help, but not a necessity. The problem is that I think that having three catchers is a necessity in Ozzies mind, so having both A. J. and Flowers in the same lineup probably won't happen.
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