Im going with Escobar. If he fails as a starter, we have a defenite closer. He has some nasty stuff.

I voted "other" because I am going to go out onto a limb and say NO ONE! I say we keep our minor leaguers and promote from within. It is time to see what these kids are worth. We have raided the farm system plenty in the last few years and don't need to do it anymore.

gotta go with Escobar.

 

he's got the best arm.

 

he can start or pitch outta the bullpen.

 

He's been pitching well.

 

And Toronto should be desperate to dump salary.

I'd go with Escobar too.

When, (notice I didn't say if...) we get to the playoffs he will be incredibly effective as a set-up guy or closer.

 

Maybe Toronto wants Billy back?

PLEASE

I like Escobar, but I'd rather have Jarvis. I'd be happy to grab either one of them. Anybody else worries me for various reasons.

Kevin Jarvis and Danny Graves or Mike Stanton.

 

Gives the Sox two veterans that can contribute immediately. Both make money, but it wouldn't cost much more then two or three fring to average prospects to get the two of them.

 

Graves (29 years old) career numbers:

39-32, 130 SV, 3.83 ERA, 650.1 INN, 25 GS, 347 K, .266 BAA

 

Mike Stanton (36 YR Old) Career Numbers:

55-41, 204 HLD, 42 SV, 3.81 ERA

 

This Season:

2-4, 7 HLD, 1 S, 1 BS, 4.94 ERA, 27.1 INN

 

He has been injured for parts of this season. Stanton makes 2 mill a year for the next two years I think.

 

Kevin Jarvis (33 Years Old) career numbers:

33-40, 1 SV, 5.69 ERA, 109 Starts

 

This season:

4-2, 3.91 ERA, 50.2 Inn (8 starts)

 

Hasn't made many starst the past two season with injuries. Is healthy now and pitching very good. I think he's gonna be one of those guys that has a few really good years after never really been noticed much during most of his career (Ala Woody Williams).

I wouldnt want Kevin jarvis..

 

Too old... if we are making a trade I would rather get someone that would stick around for a while like Escobar or Graves

 

Even though I am not too high on graves

 

I like what we got in our minors to work with

I know this is way off topic, but I noticed something in Jason's post that made me have to speak up.

 

The HOLD stat for pitchers has to be the most worthless stat ever invented. I have never seen helpful use of this stat in evaluating anyone.

I know this is way off topic, but I noticed something in Jason's post that made me have to speak up.

 

The HOLD stat for pitchers has to be the most worthless stat ever invented.  I have never seen helpful use of this stat in evaluating anyone.

Its about the first time i've ever even used it.

 

Just tell me the ERA, innings pitched, k's, walks and I can tell ya if the guy is any good.

I know this is way off topic, but I noticed something in Jason's post that made me have to speak up.

 

The HOLD stat for pitchers has to be the most worthless stat ever invented.  I have never seen helpful use of this stat in evaluating anyone.

Its about the first time i've ever even used it.

 

Just tell me the ERA, innings pitched, k's, walks and I can tell ya if the guy is any good.

I'll add hits allowed to those, Jason...

The Hold stat helps you see how many times the reliever has enetered the game and NOT given up the lead.. In a way I think this is a useful stat although I would rather look at ERA and record K's Innings Pitched and Walks before I looked at holds but they arent that bad..

 

It just gives you an idea about how they do when they are in the game with a close lead

The Hold stat helps you see how many times the reliever has enetered the game and NOT given up the lead.. In a way I think this is a useful stat although I would rather look at ERA and record K's Innings Pitched and Walks before I looked at holds but they arent that bad..

 

It just gives you an idea about how they do when they are in the game with a close lead

True, but if you don't hold the lead, what do you get? A blown save if the game is in the 7th inning or later.

 

A Hold is a weak attempt at trying to measure how many inherited runners score.

I know this is way off topic, but I noticed something in Jason's post that made me have to speak up.

 

The HOLD stat for pitchers has to be the most worthless stat ever invented.  I have never seen helpful use of this stat in evaluating anyone.

Its about the first time i've ever even used it.

 

Just tell me the ERA, innings pitched, k's, walks and I can tell ya if the guy is any good.

I'll add hits allowed to those, Jason...

Agreed or more specifically BAA and WHIP.

I agree as well

 

I was just saying that its not as useless as one would think, but I wouldnt hold a report on a player on how many holds he has

I know this is way off topic, but I noticed something in Jason's post that made me have to speak up.

 

The HOLD stat for pitchers has to be the most worthless stat ever invented.  I have never seen helpful use of this stat in evaluating anyone.

No, the save stat is pretty overrated, too.

1)Corey Lidle 2)Jeff Suppan. I like Lidle, he has a good history with 2nd halves in the past.

Other, meaning Jake Peavy if he's not part of the Giles/Kendall deal. It looks like the Padres will give up O. Perez and Nady for those two or nothing. If that's the case, they might trade the Jakester for a Carlos Lee or Carl Everett for next season's big opening in the new ballpark. Add possibly Tejada to the mix and boy I'm excited as sh1t about my local team next year.

Other, meaning Jake Peavy if he's not part of the Giles/Kendall deal. It looks like the Padres will give up O. Perez and Nady for those two or nothing. If that's the case, they might trade the Jakester for a Carlos Lee or Carl Everett for next season's big opening in the new ballpark. Add possibly Tejada to the mix and boy I'm excited as sh1t about my local team next year.

ahhh my favorite subject trading for sfo or sd pitching prospect.

 

why not trade clee, move everett to the corner and start rowan,

 

get peavy and lairino from sd.

LOL! The Padres can't give Jarvis away and you want to trade Carlos Lee for him?

LOL! The Padres can't give Jarvis away and you want to trade Carlos Lee for him?

Now that is thinking like Kenny Williams!

LOL! The Padres can't give Jarvis away and you want to trade Carlos Lee for him?

where in my post do you see me mention jarvis.......

where in my post do you see me mention jarvis....... 

We were talking about Peavy, not Jarvis.

My bad, I misread Jakester.

Jakester.

 

what does jakester means?

 

what does jakester means?