April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:15 PM) ahh, the defer to management because they have jobs in management and we don't so they must always be right school of thought. Brilliant. Terry Bevington, brilliant baseball mind. He was a manager, you know! But even Terry Bevington would wax anyone on this board.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) Gordon Beckham is a .270-to-.280 hitter until further notice. People already have him in the hall of fame, for some odd reason. It is also not beyond the realm of possibility for Konerko or Andruw Jones to get a base bit. Well, then Andruw Jones is about a .220 hitter until further notice.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:24 PM) But even Terry Bevington would wax anyone on this board. Well I would consider Steve Stone a pretty good baseball mind and he thought that Pierre should of tested the bad throwing catcher instead of bunting him over on the first pitch.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:28 PM) Well, then Andruw Jones is about a .220 hitter until further notice. Except we all know that he's much better than that. I don't know if Beckham can clear .275. It remains to be seen.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 07:22 PM) Gordon Beckham is a .270-to-.280 hitter until further notice. People already have him in the hall of fame, for some odd reason. It is also not beyond the realm of possibility for Konerko or Andruw Jones to get a base bit. Nor is it that Beckham would. In fact, it's a better bet than andruw jones, rios, teahan and alexei. A far better bet.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 07:31 PM) Except we all know that he's much better than that. I don't know if Beckham can clear .275. It remains to be seen. We do? Unless he's on the same "diet" he was when he was back in Atlanta, it's very possible he's just washed up.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 07:31 PM) Except we all know that he's much better than that. k...i'm done.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:29 PM) Well I would consider Steve Stone a pretty good baseball mind and he thought that Pierre should of tested the bad throwing catcher instead of bunting him over on the first pitch. Steve Stone is the best baseball man that I know, and I'd have been game to test Marson if they'd have had a right-handed reliever out there.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:32 PM) k...i'm done. Whatever. From what I've seen of Andruw Jones this year, he's much better than just a .220 hitter. Not even debatable. Edited April 9, 201015 yr by hammerhead johnson
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:34 PM) Steve Stone is the best baseball man that I know, and I'd have been game to test Marson if they'd have had a right-handed reliever out there. We did the same thing in the 7th inning also with a righty on the mound.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:36 PM) We did the same thing in the 7th inning also with a righty on the mound. True. I'm mostly zoning in on the 9th inning.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:36 PM) Whatever. From what I've seen of Andruw Jones this year, he's much better than just a .220 hitter. Not even debatable. All 6 plate appearances?
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 03:40 PM) All 5 plate appearances? 6. He had a HBP in there as well.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:41 PM) 6. He had a HBP in there as well. Forgot he pinch hit.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Forgot he pinch hit. I got to correct kal! Yay!
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 08:44 PM) Was spring training last year? Who cares about Spring Training? It's the perfect setting for Jones, since he can't hit good offspeed pitches. We all know how the ball doesn't curve as much in Arizona.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:44 PM) Was spring training last year? Since when do spring stats mean a damn thing? Maybe we should hit Kotsay 3rd since he batted .382 in March. s*** Vernon Wells had an OPS just over .700 during the spring, his current OPS is around 2.500. It's pretty easy to launch in Arizona when you're seeing nothing but fastballs and awful offspeed pitches, the game changes a bit when you come north.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:44 PM) I got to correct kal! Yay! When kalapse wasn't corrected last night... that was the shocker. Guy couldn't say a damn thing correct if he tried.
April 9, 201015 yr From what I saw of Andruw Jones throughout spring training, he's much better than just a .220 caliber hitter. A good 30 to 40 points better. I don't know how this is even arguable. I also don't know how Kalapse and Balta thought I was basing my opinion on the first three regular season games. I thought that y'all were much smarter than that.
April 9, 201015 yr Who gives a s*** about the stats. I'm just going off how certain players looked in their at bats. Hell of a concept, huh?
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) From what I saw of Andruw Jones throughout spring training, he's much better than just a .220 caliber hitter. A good 30 to 40 points better. I don't know how this is even arguable. I also don't know how Kalapse and Balta thought I was basing my opinion on the first three regular season games. I thought that y'all were much smarter than that. His last three seasons he hit .222, .158, & .214. I think considering him a .220 caliber hitter is right on the money. Spring training means little. You have to prove it in the regular season, which he hasnt done in four years.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) From what I saw of Andruw Jones throughout spring training, he's much better than just a .220 caliber hitter. A good 30 to 40 points better. I don't know how this is even arguable. I also don't know how Kalapse and Balta thought I was basing my opinion on the first three regular season games. I thought that y'all were much smarter than that. Hammerhead...here's the thing. I think Jones will probably be better than a .220 hitter, although if he is a .220 hitter I'd expect it's a powerful .220. But you have less evidence that Jones is better than a .220 hitter than we have for Beckham being ready to be a .300 hitter. Beckham hit .286 after he got over his initial first 30 at bat slump last year. Beckham hit .290 in ST. You can't possibly argue that Jones is a .275 hitter and then refuse to think that Beckham could be better than .270.
April 9, 201015 yr QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 9, 2010 -> 03:50 PM) Who gives a s*** about the stats. I'm just going off how certain players looked in their at bats. Hell of a concept, huh? And Beckham hasn't looked like an all-star to you?
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