This is just a great idea.

 

A new U.S. Senate bill would grant the president far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of or even shut down portions of the Internet.

 

 

CNET

This is just a great idea.

 

 

 

 

CNET

Well that is just a horrifically bad idea.

 

Way too much power to the feds. Bad idea.

Is it even possible to "take over" the Internet like that?

I could throttle or control traffic like China does, I would assume. It all goes back to a single backbone, so you just take control of that.

 

I feel like we had this conversation before. Terrible idea.

No, it should happen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I only said this because I can't possibly agree with Strange.

 

Is it even possible to "take over" the Internet like that?

 

sure, but they would need some sort of control over internet providers, large internet companies, search engines, traffic on private systems, ect. they would need to be involved in a whole lot of stuff.

Edited June 18, 201015 yr by mr_genius

sure, but they would need some sort of control over internet providers, large internet companies, search engines, traffic on private systems, ect. they would need to be involved in a whole lot of stuff.

Right, so... s***can this idea.

On a similiar note, anyone see that 60 Minutes piece about cyberwarfare? Using the internet to gain access to various utility services?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10393170-83.html

 

Pretty interesting. I'm wondering wtf utility companies have their equipment on global servers. Can't they set up localized networks that can't be hacked into? Perhaps Obama's proposed powers stems from fear of something like this happening (though I would think that that point it'd be too late).

 

And how many billions would the economy lose if he did shut down the internet, even for a day?

 

 

Cyber security is the next big wave for utilities. It's coming on very fast.

 

edit: yeah, jenks, that's exactly why something like this bill is being proposed. If you've got foreign attacks, you can shut your network off from the rest of the world.

Edited June 18, 201015 yr by StrangeSox

On a similiar note, anyone see that 60 Minutes piece about cyberwarfare? Using the internet to gain access to various utility services?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10393170-83.html

 

Pretty interesting. I'm wondering wtf utility companies have their equipment on global servers. Can't they set up localized networks that can't be hacked into? Perhaps Obama's proposed powers stems from fear of something like this happening (though I would think that that point it'd be too late).

 

And how many billions would the economy lose if he did shut down the internet, even for a day?

 

Hell even if he shut it down for an hour or two.

And you people b**** now when soxtalk farts.

 

And you people b**** now when soxtalk farts.

I'm all about taking control of this site away from you and giving it to Obama.

Wow, that is quite possibly one of the dumbest ideas ever.

I'd better hear a hell of a lot of freedom of speech arguments...

I'm all about taking control of this site away from you and giving it to Obama.

 

haha

IIRC this was first proposed during the Clinton admin, a couple of times in various stages during Bush. How important is the internet in the event of an attack by the enemy (whomever that may be) and who best to fight the attack? An all out assault at government services (some of which may have been privatized) water treatment, sewer, various food chain items, could be a real problem. Perhaps we know what the US plans would be if we attacked someone in that way.

 

I don't know the answer. Perhaps a hundred thousand system admins of various skill levels, each fighting an individual battle to save their system versus a coordinated government/military defense.

 

Does the government have powers over the airwaves during these times?

Does the government have powers over the airwaves during these times?

The government technically owns the airwaves and leases the rights to television, radio, and cell phone providers. Does the government own either the wires that connect your home/business to computer networks or the servers that you're accessing through those networks any more?

The government technically owns the airwaves and leases the rights to television, radio, and cell phone providers. Does the government own either the wires that connect your home/business to computer networks or the servers that you're accessing through those networks any more?

 

No they don't.

No they don't.

 

 

So a private company could basically shut down the internet by shutting off their lines?

No they don't.

Which part? Are you denying that the government owns the airwaves? Or that AT&T owns the wires?