I havent heard much in the way of bringing back Jones, I felt he did an adequate job as a 4th OF and part time DH. He played solid defense and come through with occasional bang. I read the yankees are interested and assume Jones can be had for something like 1 year 1.5M. Question is if we are not interested in retaining his services then who do we have as options for our 4th and 5th OF spots?

I sure hope so. Jones is more than qualified to be a 4th OF on many teams. We would be much better with Jones over De Aza.

We have two guys who make minimum in De Aza and Lillibridge.

We have two guys who make minimum in De Aza and Lillibridge.

 

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And Infante/Carter would make the minimum too, doesn't mean we shouldn't try and find a decent reliever on the market. I don't see your point, as Jones is much better than both.

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And Infante/Carter would make the minimum too, doesn't mean we shouldn't try and find a decent reliever on the market. I don't see your point, as Jones is much better than both.

 

We should go ahead and sign Soriano then, oh wait, the Sox can't afford it. I think De AZA will do a fine job as a 4th OF.

We should go ahead and sign Soriano then, oh wait, the Sox can't afford it. I think De AZA will do a fine job as a 4th OF.

 

Well, that's why I said "decent reliever" and not Soriano. Soriano and Jones are not equals. Soriano is very good, and will cost premium. Jones, however, is pretty decent, and shouldn't cost more than $2-$3M. And he put up almost a 2 WAR in only 107 games, which is worth about $7.4M on the market. A 2 WAR is something De Aza has never come close to, and probably won't ever achieve in his career. Same for Lillibridge.

 

Jones can play all 3 OF positions, and play them well, while offering above average speed and good power. De Aza is below average defensively, with above average speed, and a below average bat. Jones is vastly superior, and even if he costs $2M-$3M, I think he is worth it.

 

ALLLLLLL of this being said, I want a good reliever over everything, so if it's one or the other, I'll take the reliever, but I'd really like to have Jones back.

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Well, that's why I said "decent reliever" and not Soriano. Soriano and Jones are not equals. Soriano is very good, and will cost premium. Jones, however, is pretty decent, and shouldn't cost more than $2-$3M. And he put up almost a 2 WAR in only 107 games, which is worth about $7.4M on the market. A 2 WAR is something De Aza has never come close to, and probably won't ever achieve in his career. Same for Lillibridge.

 

Jones can play all 3 OF positions, and play them well, while offering above average speed and good power. De Aza is below average defensively, with above average speed, and a below average bat. Jones is vastly superior, and even if he costs $2M-$3M, I think he is worth it.

 

ALLLLLLL of this being said, I want a good reliever over everything, so if it's one or the other, I'll take the reliever, but I'd really like to have Jones back.

 

Well De Aza hasn't really had a chance to prove himself yet. But I'm not gonna argue which one of them two is better. In reply to the question: Do Sox have interest in Anruw Jones - I don't think they do.

 

If they did, he would have been resigned already. They brought Omar back as soon as they had a chance. Andruw is close firends with Ozzie and the Guilliens. His agent is Scott Boras and Andruw went around his agent to come play or Ozzie last year. He played for minimum money so can reestablish himself and sign a decent contract in 2011. He did just that, and now he is looking to get paid. I don't think Sox are gonna be the ones paying Andruw.

 

I'd like to have him back also, because he is a great alternative to Quentin in RF and like you said, tremendous defense and can play all three OF positions. However I think Sox will finally give De Aza a chance.

the Yankees have interest in him.

If Andruw was willing to come back for fairly cheap again, like a million or less and one year, I'd be the Sox would jump at the chance.

 

If Andruw was willing to come back for fairly cheap again, like a million or less and one year, I'd be the Sox would jump at the chance.

I'd be the Sox too.

 

Anyway...Jones ought to get $3-4 million from someone. I still think he's a perfect fit for the Twins, but I'm becoming more convinced every day that they just have no money to spend.

I'd be the Sox too.

 

Anyway...Jones ought to get $3-4 million from someone. I still think he's a perfect fit for the Twins, but I'm becoming more convinced every day that they just have no money to spend.

I think a lot of money has dried up period, across baseball. That's why I think Andruw signs for substantially less than that, and it may indeed be with the Sox.

 

I think a lot of money has dried up period, across baseball. That's why I think Andruw signs for substantially less than that, and it may indeed be with the Sox.

Even if that's true, the big guys still have room for OF help. Philly, NYC, and Boston all could use 300 AB's from a RH hitting OF.

If we can get Andruw in the same zip code as last year, that would be awesome.

If we can get Andruw in the same zip code as last year, that would be awesome.

If the Sox have $2 million or so to spare...I think signing another reliever (perhaps a lefty), or perhaps a starter coming off injury (say Chris Young, or Freddy Garcia for those that love him) makes this team better than signing Andruw Jones.

If the Sox have $2 million or so to spare...I think signing another reliever (perhaps a lefty), or perhaps a starter coming off injury (say Chris Young, or Freddy Garcia for those that love him) makes this team better than signing Andruw Jones.

 

I think you have to bet on at least one OF injury during the year between Pierre and TCQ.

I think you have to bet on at least one OF injury during the year between Pierre and TCQ.

And I'm content with De Aza, Lilliputian, Teahen, and in a mighty pinch, Dunn, as the backups.

And I'm content with De Aza, Lilliputian, Teahen, and in a mighty pinch, Dunn, as the backups.

 

That just gives me Alex Gonzalez type flashbacks.

I havent heard much in the way of bringing back Jones, I felt he did an adequate job as a 4th OF and part time DH. He played solid defense and come through with occasional bang. I read the yankees are interested and assume Jones can be had for something like 1 year 1.5M. Question is if we are not interested in retaining his services then who do we have as options for our 4th and 5th OF spots?

 

 

There was comment after the season that the Sox did have an interest in bringing him back. I think he is a very good 4th of'er option

And I'm content with De Aza, Lilliputian, Teahen, and in a mighty pinch, Dunn, as the backups.

 

 

Do you not agree though that Jones is a good glove man still? Maybe defense is something we should be considering?

Do you not agree though that Jones is a good glove man still? Maybe defense is something we should be considering?

Why do we believe that De Aza and the Stealth Elf are poor defensive options? I'll grant that Teahen and Dunn are, but they were my 3rd and 4th options for a reason.

 

Personally, I kinda like De Aza, and I've thought since we got him that if he ever stayed healthy he's somewhere in the neighborhood of an average MLB starter, although I don't know about his glove.

We should go ahead and sign Soriano then, oh wait, the Sox can't afford it. I think De AZA will do a fine job as a 4th OF.

 

I never thought having Jones and De Aza on our bench are mutually exclusive. Most teams carry two back up OF's and I expect the White Sox to be the same, especially given the fact that CQ will get hurt. So if Jones signs somewhere else then we need two OF back ups, but a backup OF brigade of Jones and De Aza together would be pretty good.

I never thought having Jones and De Aza on our bench are mutually exclusive. Most teams carry two back up OF's and I expect the White Sox to be the same, especially given the fact that CQ will get hurt. So if Jones signs somewhere else then we need two OF back ups, but a backup OF brigade of Jones and De Aza together would be pretty good.

 

Mark Teahen, Ramon Castro, Omar Vizquel already under contract for 2011.

 

Leaves one spot on the bench.

 

Actually the more I think about it, there really isn't no place on this team for Andruw Jones, and possibly Brent Lillibridge makes more sense than De Aza.

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Mark Teahen, Ramon Castro, Omar Vizquel already under contract for 2011.

 

Leaves one spot on the bench.

 

Actually the more I think about it, there really isn't no place on this team for Andruw Jones, and possibly Brent Lillibridge makes more sense than De Aza.

Jones would take the place of De Aza/Lillibridge if he signed, and he makes perfect sense there. Also, I am not 100% sure Teahen is with the team on Opening Day.

 

Jones would take the place of De Aza/Lillibridge if he signed, and he makes perfect sense there. Also, I am not 100% sure Teahen is with the team on Opening Day.

 

Of course if Sox get rid of Teahen than it's a different ball game. Lillibridge possibly gives you a backup at all 3B/SS/2B/OF.

 

With a bench of Castro, Vizquel, Teahen, Jones/De Aza, you only have 1 backup at 2B/SS, not sure Ozzie goes with a bench like that.

In a perect world you trade Teahen for a reliever, and for whatever Salary you were able to shed you sign Andruw Jones.