August 8, 201114 yr I realize that it may have been even further skewed by having hosted the league's top two teams on the last home stand (teams that we handled fine on the road), but can anyone explain why the team's home and away records are so different and the opposite of what one would normally expect? I don't think it can be rightly labeled "pressure" to please the home crowd, since this is a veteran team and the crowds aren't even that big. I personally think its just "one of those things," and that the simple law of averages almost bodes well for the team, in that you'd expect the home record to come close to at least evening out over the course of the season, which would mean substantial improvement going forward. Has anyone heard Ozzie or Kenny asked for their thoughts?
August 8, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) Wasn't the same thing true last year as well? Nope
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:19 AM) I realize that it may have been even further skewed by having hosted the league's top two teams on the last home stand (teams that we handled fine on the road), but can anyone explain why the team's home and away records are so different and the opposite of what one would normally expect? I don't think it can be rightly labeled "pressure" to please the home crowd, since this is a veteran team and the crowds aren't even that big. I personally think its just "one of those things," and that the simple law of averages almost bodes well for the team, in that you'd expect the home record to come close to at least evening out over the course of the season, which would mean substantial improvement going forward. Has anyone heard Ozzie or Kenny asked for their thoughts? Maybe the booing and empty seats is adding up?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:09 AM) Maybe the booing and empty seats is adding up? So this year's lack of success can be directly blamed on lack of support from the fans?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) So this year's lack of success can be directly blamed on lack of support from the fans? I'm not saying all, but judging by the splits, you have to wonder if it is contributing, especially because it has gotten worse as people have stayed away, and those who have come have gotten more aggressive in their dissent.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) I'm not saying all, but judging by the splits, you have to wonder if it is contributing, especially because it has gotten worse as people have stayed away, and those who have come have gotten more aggressive in their dissent. It could be true, although I would hope my team would be more mentally tough than that. However, their performance in April/May and some of those awful late losses really helped contribute to the fans dissent and their absence.
August 8, 201114 yr LOL at this thread. Booing is causing the team to stink. Explain the Cubs then. All cheers...no wins.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) LOL at this thread. Booing is causing the team to stink. Explain the Cubs then. All cheers...no wins.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) LOL at this thread. Booing is causing the team to stink. Explain the Cubs then. All cheers...no wins. They are better at home than they are on the road. Next question.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) They are better at home than they are on the road. Next question. Sorry but your premise that the Sox might be playing poorly because the fans are booing is laughable.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) Sorry but your premise that the Sox might be playing poorly because the fans are booing is laughable. Why? You don't think you would do better at work in a hostile environment, do you?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) Why? You don't think you would do better at work in a hostile environment, do you? Hostile? You're completely exaggerating. When do the fans boo? After the 3rd strikeout by Adam Dunn? You make it seem as if the fans are booing from the 1st pitch all the way until the last out.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) Hostile? You're completely exaggerating. When do the fans boo? After the 3rd strikeout by Adam Dunn? You make it seem as if the fans are booing from the 1st pitch all the way until the last out. The guys who are struggling the most also have played the worst, and are getting the harshest receptions. Their numbers are also worse at home.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) The guys who are struggling the most also have played the worst, and are getting the harshest receptions. Their numbers are also worse at home. In case you haven't noticed, fans didn't start booing at the beginning of the season when these guys started off horribly. It takes time for the fans to turn against you. And thank goodness the players or management aren't using this lame ass excuse because I'd be livid if they did. Edited August 8, 201114 yr by BigSqwert
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) In case you haven't noticed, fans didn't start booing at the beginning of the season when these guys started off horribly. It takes time for the fans to turn against you. And thank goodness the players or management aren't using this lame ass excuse because I'd be livid if they did. And their slides have accelerated as their treatment got worse. Seriously, tell me how you would handle a group of people yelling at you for your every screw up at worK?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) And their slides have accelerated as their treatment got worse. Seriously, tell me how you would handle a group of people yelling at you for your every screw up at worK? You're comparing a finance job to a professional athlete's? There's no reason to continue this conversation. SMH
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:10 AM) You're comparing a finance job to a professional athlete's? There's no reason to continue this conversation. SMH Why not? How much abuse could you take at work?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) And their slides have accelerated as their treatment got worse. So who are you referring to? Alex Rios has a .678 OPS at home and a .484 OPS on the road. Is it just Dunn?
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) Why not? How much abuse could you take at work? What abuse are you talking about? 40 seconds of booing per game? You are being ridiculous.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:16 AM) What abuse are you talking about? 40 seconds of booing per game? You are being ridiculous. You honestly think that the booing and jeering has no effect on a player?
August 8, 201114 yr hasn't adam dunn been absolutely horrific at US Cellular? I remember being shocked by the numbers.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:18 AM) You honestly think that the booing and jeering has no effect on a player? When do fans boo the pitchers? I don't recall that being a problem yet the team ERA is almost a half run higher at home.
August 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 11:20 AM) When do fans boo the pitchers? I don't recall that being a problem yet the team ERA is almost a half run higher at home. So the offense is worst at home, the pitching is worst at home, and it has nothing to do with the negatives that happen when the Sox are at home. Yeah.
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