September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) I'll take Sergio and his novice upside over a bevy of other closers. The skill set this kid brings is sick and like NSS72 says...he's just getting started. He's gone through stretches he was just plain sick...unhittable. Not sure where the mental midget comment even came in. from people overreacting to 1 loss and tossing out the latest Soxtalk buzzword.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) from people overreacting to 1 loss and tossing out the latest Soxtalk buzzword. I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened. I'm fine with the term as long as you also include the fact that he was taking BP not too long ago, has the best out pitch in baseball, and was dominant for long stretches of the season into consideration. If he's still a "mental midget" despite all those other facts, then it's just dumb.
September 7, 201114 yr Most of these posted idea lineups are even more punchless than today! The Sox need at least one if not two more hitters that can put up PK type numbers in order to compete next year. These new guys probably need to play 3B and LF. Trade Quentin? I wouldnt do that. Sox need to add MUCH more offense to support the great pitching and defense. And Im not talking about Rios, Beckham and Dunn doing better. We need two NEW top 20 type hitters. Maybe trade Floyd or Thornton for them?
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) I'm fine with the term as long as you also include the fact that he was taking BP not too long ago, has the best out pitch in baseball, and was dominant for long stretches of the season into consideration. If he's still a "mental midget" despite all those other facts, then it's just dumb. I have a feeling that this is going to become the new "Peavy is a Cy Young winner"
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened. and when they happen.....
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Vance Law @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Trade Quentin, Danks or Floyd, and AJ if possible (by eating some salary). Trade Ozzie to the Marlins for one of those frozen Mai Tai backpack contraptions. Tell everyone to hit better. Maybe Vance Law can be the new manager? Are you available, Vance?
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (champs2005 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Most of these posted idea lineups are even more punchless than today! The Sox need at least one if not two more hitters that can put up PK type numbers in order to compete next year. These new guys probably need to play 3B and LF. Trade Quentin? I wouldnt do that. Sox need to add MUCH more offense to support the great pitching and defense. And Im not talking about Rios, Beckham and Dunn doing better. We need two NEW top 20 type hitters. Maybe trade Floyd or Thornton for them? Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton. I personally think some combination of Danks, Quentin and/or Thornton should get you a LF that produces a lot better than Pierre did. That would be my goal, along with trying to get that from someone in pre-arb or arb years. If they are expensive, then you might as well stick with Quentin and put him in LF. But I agree, a "Top 20" hitter in baseball is not something the Sox can obtain with any of those guys.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton. Are you insinuating Longoria/Braun are unavailable?
September 7, 201114 yr Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff. Because pitching was clearly the problem this year?
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) Because pitching was clearly the problem this year? The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013.
September 7, 201114 yr I'm having a really hard time distinguishing who the hell is being sarcastic or not.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:44 PM) The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013. Ah, so you're trolling again, got it. Thanks for clearing that up
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:44 PM) The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013. Yet you want to trade Danks, Floyd, Santos and Sale in one offseason?
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) Yet you want to trade Danks, Floyd, Santos and Sale in one offseason? Not Sale.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 05:48 PM) What's their rotation in 2013? As it stands now...Sale, Humber, Stewart, Floyd. Having 4/5 of a rotation penciled in for 2 seasons down the road is not a horrible position to be in.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) I'm having a really hard time distinguishing who the hell is being sarcastic or not.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:50 PM) As it stands now...Sale, Humber, Stewart, Floyd. Having 4/5 of a rotation penciled in for 2 seasons down the road is not a horrible position to be in. No depth.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 05:52 PM) No depth. I'm not worried about who the 6th starter is in 2013. Nor should you be.
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) I'm not worried about who the 6th starter is in 2013. Nor should you be. I'm getting kind of antsy as to who our 5th OF will be in 2014
September 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) I'm getting kind of antsy as to who our 5th OF will be in 2014 My guess would be Jared Mitchell.
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