jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) I'll take Sergio and his novice upside over a bevy of other closers. The skill set this kid brings is sick and like NSS72 says...he's just getting started. He's gone through stretches he was just plain sick...unhittable. Not sure where the mental midget comment even came in. from people overreacting to 1 loss and tossing out the latest Soxtalk buzzword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) from people overreacting to 1 loss and tossing out the latest Soxtalk buzzword. I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened. I'm fine with the term as long as you also include the fact that he was taking BP not too long ago, has the best out pitch in baseball, and was dominant for long stretches of the season into consideration. If he's still a "mental midget" despite all those other facts, then it's just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champs2005 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Most of these posted idea lineups are even more punchless than today! The Sox need at least one if not two more hitters that can put up PK type numbers in order to compete next year. These new guys probably need to play 3B and LF. Trade Quentin? I wouldnt do that. Sox need to add MUCH more offense to support the great pitching and defense. And Im not talking about Rios, Beckham and Dunn doing better. We need two NEW top 20 type hitters. Maybe trade Floyd or Thornton for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) I'm fine with the term as long as you also include the fact that he was taking BP not too long ago, has the best out pitch in baseball, and was dominant for long stretches of the season into consideration. If he's still a "mental midget" despite all those other facts, then it's just dumb. I have a feeling that this is going to become the new "Peavy is a Cy Young winner" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) I don't think that there's an overreaction to 1 loss happening here, I think there's a reaction to the way Sergio's full suite of blown saves have happened. and when they happen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Trade Quentin, Danks or Floyd, and AJ if possible (by eating some salary). Trade Ozzie to the Marlins for one of those frozen Mai Tai backpack contraptions. Tell everyone to hit better. Maybe Vance Law can be the new manager? Are you available, Vance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (champs2005 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Most of these posted idea lineups are even more punchless than today! The Sox need at least one if not two more hitters that can put up PK type numbers in order to compete next year. These new guys probably need to play 3B and LF. Trade Quentin? I wouldnt do that. Sox need to add MUCH more offense to support the great pitching and defense. And Im not talking about Rios, Beckham and Dunn doing better. We need two NEW top 20 type hitters. Maybe trade Floyd or Thornton for them? Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton. I personally think some combination of Danks, Quentin and/or Thornton should get you a LF that produces a lot better than Pierre did. That would be my goal, along with trying to get that from someone in pre-arb or arb years. If they are expensive, then you might as well stick with Quentin and put him in LF. But I agree, a "Top 20" hitter in baseball is not something the Sox can obtain with any of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Let me know where you're getting a "top 20 hitter" for Floyd or Thorton. Are you insinuating Longoria/Braun are unavailable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Forget about the offense, it's the pitching staff that needs to be rebuilt ASAP. Whatever tradable assets they have should be focused on the staff. Because pitching was clearly the problem this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) Because pitching was clearly the problem this year? The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm having a really hard time distinguishing who the hell is being sarcastic or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:44 PM) The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013. Ah, so you're trolling again, got it. Thanks for clearing that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:44 PM) The pitching staff needs to be addressed this offseason or they are looking at a Indians-like rebuilding period beginning in 2013. Yet you want to trade Danks, Floyd, Santos and Sale in one offseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 What's their rotation in 2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) Yet you want to trade Danks, Floyd, Santos and Sale in one offseason? Not Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 05:48 PM) What's their rotation in 2013? As it stands now...Sale, Humber, Stewart, Floyd. Having 4/5 of a rotation penciled in for 2 seasons down the road is not a horrible position to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) I'm having a really hard time distinguishing who the hell is being sarcastic or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:50 PM) As it stands now...Sale, Humber, Stewart, Floyd. Having 4/5 of a rotation penciled in for 2 seasons down the road is not a horrible position to be in. No depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 05:52 PM) No depth. I'm not worried about who the 6th starter is in 2013. Nor should you be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) I'm not worried about who the 6th starter is in 2013. Nor should you be. I'm getting kind of antsy as to who our 5th OF will be in 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) I'm getting kind of antsy as to who our 5th OF will be in 2014 My guess would be Jared Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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