September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) Son of a b****... you could've atleast used a emoticon so it didn't look like you just b**** slapped me. Jackass. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) The f***? Is Ozzie going to come kill him or something? Ahahahaha. Also, yeah, Swisher was not acquired as a CF. Opening Day CF was Alexei. I better watch out. I guess it doesn't show us that Ozzie actually lowered KW's winning percentage.
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) I better watch out. I guess it doesn't show us that Ozzie actually lowered KW's winning percentage. It just sounds like a thinly veiled mob hit.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) The f***? Is Ozzie going to come kill him or something? Ahahahaha. Also, yeah, Swisher was not acquired as a CF. Opening Day CF was Alexei. Ok, then Williams got Quentin to be a reserve OF'er. One or the other.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) Milkman you are making a mistake by using win percentage to defend Williams over Guillen. A very big one. Yes, you're right. When debating, don't let statistics get in the way of the truth, right?
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) I better watch out. I guess it doesn't show us that Ozzie actually lowered KW's winning percentage. Williams World Series Titles with Guillen: 1 Williams World Series titles with out Guillen: 0 Just sayin' Milkman.
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Ok, then Williams got Quentin to be a reserve OF'er. One or the other. He did. No one expected Quentin to be the monster he was. But that is what slid Swisher to be the center fielder, was that Quentin came out of nowhere.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Williams World Series Titles with Guillen: 1 Williams World Series titles with out Guillen: 0 Just sayin' Milkman. So Williams has a world title and a higher winning percentage. Guillen has a world title and a lower winning percentage. Do.Not.Follow.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Williams World Series Titles with Guillen: 1 Williams World Series titles with out Guillen: 0 Just sayin' Milkman. Guillen World Series Titles with Williams: 1 Guillen World Series titles with out Williams: 0 Just sayin' Marty
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) So Williams has a world title and a higher winning percentage. Guillen has a world title and a lower winning percentage. Do.Not.Follow. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Guillen World Series Titles with Williams: 1 Guillen World Series titles with out Williams: 0 Just sayin' Marty
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Guillen World Series Titles with Williams: 1 Guillen World Series titles with out Williams: 0 Just sayin' Marty Right. No defense of Guillen.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) So Williams has a world title and a higher winning percentage. Guillen has a world title and a lower winning percentage. Do.Not.Follow. Williams has no World Series titles or even post-season appearances with managers other than Guillen.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) He did. No one expected Quentin to be the monster he was. But that is what slid Swisher to be the center fielder, was that Quentin came out of nowhere. Well Kenny did. Ozzie didn't have room for him at first.
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Williams has no World Series titles or even post-season appearances with managers other than Guillen. And Guillen doesn't have them with another GM...
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) So Williams has a world title and a higher winning percentage. Guillen has a world title and a lower winning percentage. Do.Not.Follow. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Guillen World Series Titles with Williams: 1 Guillen World Series titles with out Williams: 0 Just sayin' Marty
September 29, 201114 yr Guillen won a title as a 3B coach. Williams did not win any as an asst. GM Guillen made a WS as a player Willaims did not Interesting clip from KW's Wiki page and potential managerial candidate He is best remembered as a player for a bizarre incident during the 1990 season, where a series of wild throwing errors resulted in him (on base as a pinch-runner) rounding third base and mauling over third base coach John McLaren, knocking him out in the process (Williams himself was winded, but eventually ended up scoring the run).
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) He did. No one expected Quentin to be the monster he was. But that is what slid Swisher to be the center fielder, was that Quentin came out of nowhere. Isn't his nickname TCQ because KW wanted "THE Carlos Quentin, not a player like him"?
September 29, 201114 yr Misconceptions? For the love of g*d, how do people still think money wasn't Ozzie's motivation, at least in large part? The SAME guy the defenders are defending for being "too honest", has said IN HIS OWN WORDS in no uncertain terms that it was about money. Seriously, even if you liked Ozzie and think he should stay, how can you not see such a glaringly obvious contradiction? He. Said. It.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:16 PM) Isn't his nickname TCQ because KW wanted "THE Carlos Quentin, not a player like him"? Yep. That was a quote from an early presser in that season when Kenny got asked about Q.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:17 PM) Yep. That was a quote from an early presser in that season when Kenny got asked about Q. I don't remember when Kenny said it, but I'm going to assume it was when Quentin was tearing it up.
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) Guillen won a title as a 3B coach. I could be a damn 3B coach in the MLB. That means nothing.
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) I don't remember when Kenny said it, but I'm going to assume it was when Quentin was tearing it up. Ah, so he must have been lying then, right? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=cws
September 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) Ah, so he must have been lying then, right? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=cws You should not be so defensive.
September 29, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) You should not be so defensive.
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