soxfan49 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) Yes and he is outstanding there. Hes a wing, but thanks. What is your point? I never said Kane wasn't good at C and I never said he didn't play wing. My point was that Kane for Plekanec is giving up great potential for good player, but Subban for Hjalmarsson is great potential for 5th defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Your point was that you said Kane's a center, which is incorrect. You also tried to paint a picture that Kane = Plekanec, which is also incorrect. You also said it would be a steal for the Hawks, yet the Hawks, in theory, were holding out for more draft picks. If you think that deal is a steal, well, I don't know what to tell you. There's a huge difference between Hammer an PK, but also a huge difference between Kane and Plekanec, whether you want to believe that or not is your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 06:32 PM) Your point was that you said Kane's a center, which is incorrect. You also tried to paint a picture that Kane = Plekanec, which is also incorrect. You also said it would be a steal for the Hawks, yet the Hawks, in theory, were holding out for more draft picks. If you think that deal is a steal, well, I don't know what to tell you. There's a huge difference between Hammer an PK, but also a huge difference between Kane and Plekanec, whether you want to believe that or not is your choice. No, my point was that if the Hawks go into the season with their current team, Kane will be their 2nd line C. Coach Q and the organization refuse to give Sharp any shot at that spot, which is fine if Kane plays well. In my eyes, getting Subban and Plekanec for Kane would be a steal. It'd be an even bigger one if the Hawks received a pick or two in the deal. I never said Kane = Plekanec. The only thing I said was both are 2nd line C's. Right now, Kane is their 2nd line C barring a trade. So yes, 2nd line C = 2nd line C. However, Kane > Plekanec. But Plekanec is a good player and is only 29. 29 year old C (Plekanec) + young D man who is going to be very good (Subban) > 24 year old wing/C (Kane). It's just an opinion. If you'd rather have Hjalmarsson and Kane over Subban and Plekanec, that's fine and I can see why, but let's not act like my opinion is totally off base and wrong. Subban > Hjalmarsson Kane > Plekanec Edited July 12, 2012 by soxfan49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 You typing 2nd line center many posts ago for each put them on the same level. Go read it, it was the only way to interpret that post. It was an oversimplification you got rightly got called on. BTW, it's impossible for Kane to play well at center. We've established that. Your opinion if way off base if you actually think PK/Plek is a STEAL for Kane/Hammer. Who's the best player in the trade? Pretty hard to have it be a steal when you're giving up the best player with the highest upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Rick Nash teams have been confirmed NYR BOS PHI PIT DET SJS are the only teams he will waive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://www.csnchicago.com/hockey-chicago-b...tm_medium=email "The NHL's Declaration of War presented to the Players' Association in the guise of a first proposal on Friday would roll back the salary cap to approximately $52.5 million for 2012-13. The drop of nearly $10 million from last season would represent the lowest number since 2007-2008, sources with knowledge of the league's scheme have told Slap Shots. "The NHL wants to roll the clock back to the 1960s, when its athletes were powerless and utterly without leverage. A proposed five-year Entry Level system followed by five years without the right to salary arbitration before free agency after 10 accrued NHL seasons would leave every player in the league at the mercy of his team for a decade in a hard cap league. "That means that a minimum of $130 million in guaranteed contracts would somehow have to be shed by 19 teams that are currently over the league's proposed cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 07:28 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/hockey-chicago-b...tm_medium=email I'm thinking the season does NOT start on time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Stupid f***ing league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks The #Blackhawks have named Jamie Kompon assistant coach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 12:28 PM) Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks The #Blackhawks have named Jamie Kompon assistant coach: Chris Kuc @ChrisKuc Scouting report on Jamie Kompon from someone who would know:" utterly incompetent in handling the power play." #Blackhawks Kings fans on other sites sending their condolences.. Should be a hell of a season! <_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 07:22 AM) Kings fans on other sites sending their condolences.. Should be a hell of a season! <_> Don't worry, there isn't gonna be a season anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) Don't worry, there isn't gonna be a season anyway I was just thinking the same thing. Ugh. Come on you White Sox, you are all that I have left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well sounds like he will fit right in with the rest of the management!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 WHOA. 14 year, 100+ million offer sheet signed by Shea Weber with the Flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 01:13 AM) WHOA. 14 year, 100+ million offer sheet signed by Shea Weber with the Flyers. Whoa. That's like two Ilya Bryzgalov contracts. I think Nashville almost has to sign him, especially after losing Suter. If not, they would get two 1sts, a 2nd, & a 3rd. Unless the AAV is over $8.4 mil, then it would be 4 first round draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I have a hunch the new CBA will close the loophole that allows deals like this: Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Weber will receive $14 mil in each of 1st 4 years. $12 mil in next 2 yrs. $6mil in following 4 yrs...then $3mil and $1mil, $1mil,$1mil,$1mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 07:00 AM) Whoa. That's like two Ilya Bryzgalov contracts. I think Nashville almost has to sign him, especially after losing Suter. If not, they would get two 1sts, a 2nd, & a 3rd. Unless the AAV is over $8.4 mil, then it would be 4 first round draft picks. If I'm not mistaken, the AAV for offer sheets only calculated the first 5 years of the contract, so it's likely going to be 4 1st rounders. I don't think that $8.4 mil number is right thought. I think it's more like 7.6. With that said, I can't see NSH not matching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Poile's f***ed. Either match it and pay an assload of money, especially up front, or let him walk, and essentially become irrelevant after building a team this year that had a legit chance to contend for the Stanley Cup. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Looks like Rick Nash is finally headed to the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Looks like Kane realizes he's being an assclown...or at least he says he does. Sorry, Joecoolman http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/...rinking-problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) Looks like Kane realizes he's being an assclown...or at least he says he does. Sorry, Joecoolman http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/...rinking-problem Reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:35 PM) Reported. Come on, bud. I know you aren't too good to admit you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:05 AM) Come on, bud. I know you aren't too good to admit you were wrong. He's just trying to stir up an argument and bait me. I ignore him, he should learn to ignore me. Reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:05 AM) Come on, bud. I know you aren't too good to admit you were wrong. It's OK, Kaner needs to party on he's just a kid. We didn't go to college, we wouldn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Preds match the offer sheet to Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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