Peavy or Jones. so far Jake has 9 and Nate has 7.

I'm sure I speak for most of Soxtalk when I say

This thread should answer greg's question about topic starting.

This reminds me of my Dunn vs. Lillibomb post last year, for most home runs. Most thought I was nuts.. but Lillibomb hit more! HA!

 

 

This reminds me of my Dunn vs. Lillibomb post last year, for most home runs. Most thought I was nuts.. but Lillibomb hit more! HA!

I think the Vulture will do it. And he will probably pick up a few wins in games that peavy starts.

Not too long ago, pitchers were judged by their win/loss record. Now not so much. Jake's win total is very low for a guy who pitches so deep into games because of his throwing a fit whenever he gets taken out. He's a good starting pitcher. Not so sure he's an All Star even though he made the team.

Not too long ago, pitchers were judged by their win/loss record. Now not so much. Jake's win total is very low for a guy who pitches so deep into games because of his throwing a fit whenever he gets taken out. He's a good starting pitcher. Not so sure he's an All Star even though he made the team.

Im 99% sure you never looked at the stats, which say he has had a helluva season and most definitely deserved that AS.

Peavy has been fantastic this year and has truly been jobbed out of quite a few wins. Between the team scoring very few runs in quite a few of his good games and the bullpen blowing some big leads, he's been completely robbed of a good # of victories.

It's just proof that one season isn't a valid sample size.

Peavy has been fantastic this year and has truly been jobbed out of quite a few wins. Between the team scoring very few runs in quite a few of his good games and the bullpen blowing some big leads, he's been completely robbed of a good # of victories.

 

He needed and needs to step up in big games. 1-3 vs. Tigers. Way too much hype over Peavy the competitor. Still I would like to know how many of his games the pen has blown. Shouldn't he be like 14-9 if it weren't for the pen?

 

It's just proof that one season isn't a valid sample size.

It's just proof that pitcher wins are a complete non-statistic.

He needed and needs to step up in big games. 1-3 vs. Tigers. Way too much hype over Peavy the competitor. Still I would like to know how many of his games the pen has blown. Shouldn't he be like 14-9 if it weren't for the pen?

 

I don't think it's been the bullpen costing him wins, as much as it has been a lack of run support.

It's just proof that pitcher wins are a complete non-statistic.

 

I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace.

I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace.

 

Are you saying that Felix Hernandez is not an ace? His records the last two seasons were 13-12 & 14-14. He has only won more than 14 games once.

I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace.

Team confidence? LOL