after the uproar that will be had when we sell off, a couple of free agents aren't making a difference.

A shrewd signing next offseason could well put this team in contention right out of the gate (assuming that they actually do fielding drills during ST).

after the uproar that will be had when we sell off, a couple of free agents aren't making a difference.

 

I disagree, I think our fan base is smart enough this year to know that changes need to be made to the core of this team. With PK gone after this year, it's really going to be a new era for the Sox.

after the uproar that will be had when we sell off, a couple of free agents aren't making a difference.

 

I don't think there will be any uproar when we sell off considering we will likely be about 15-20 games out of first place and are heading towards a 100 loss season.

I disagree, I think our fan base is smart enough this year to know that changes need to be made to the core of this team. With PK gone after this year, it's really going to be a new era for the Sox.

 

I'll see you back when the White Flag articles start.

A shrewd signing next offseason could well put this team in contention right out of the gate (assuming that they actually do fielding drills during ST).

 

Unless that signing is "an offense", I can't see it.

I'll see you back when the White Flag articles start.

Who's going to be writing that it's a "White Flag" when they are 15+ games out?

 

Do you think the average Sox fan is that dumb that they will think the team is good (and not look at standings), will see a guy or two traded, then (presumably) see some BS article and say "yeah, white flag! I'm never going to a game again! We could have been good I can't believe they traded guys to try to make the team closer to winning a championship!"

 

I mean, enough already with this nonsense.

 

No one's going anyway, "White Flag" or not. The team sucks, no incorrect misconception is going to affect it.

after the uproar that will be had when we sell off, a couple of free agents aren't making a difference.

No one will care if Peavy and/or Rios get dumped.

I'll see you back when the White Flag articles start.

Um.

 

White Flag happened when the White Sox actually had a chance?

Um.

 

White Flag happened when the White Sox actually had a chance?

Yeah, if we pull back to 3 games out and then trade away Crain, then I think everyone will have a legit complaint.

 

Yeah, if we pull back to 3 games out and then trade away Crain, then I think everyone will have a legit complaint.

 

 

That 1997 team was 23-27 at the end of May (4 GB), 40-39 (2 GB) at the end of June and 53-53 (3 GB) at the trade deadline.

 

Not to mention that on paper, those mid to late 90's Indians teams were even better than this year's Tigers.

 

And that particular Indians' team eventually did go on to the World Series against the Braves.

 

 

It's harder to make a case when we're 33-52 our last 85 games and losers of 17 out of our last 22 games.

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Who's going to be writing that it's a "White Flag" when they are 15+ games out?

 

Do you think the average Sox fan is that dumb that they will think the team is good (and not look at standings), will see a guy or two traded, then (presumably) see some BS article and say "yeah, white flag! I'm never going to a game again! We could have been good I can't believe they traded guys to try to make the team closer to winning a championship!"

 

I mean, enough already with this nonsense.

 

No one's going anyway, "White Flag" or not. The team sucks, no incorrect misconception is going to affect it.

 

They were already starting the White Flag stuff a few years back before we started that big run right before the deadline. This will be easy fodder for lazy sports personalities in this town.

They were already starting the White Flag stuff a few years back before we started that big run right before the deadline. This will be easy fodder for lazy sports personalities in this town.

How many people @ this site aren't ready to wave the white flag? I'm basically there.

How many people @ this site aren't ready to wave the white flag? I'm basically there.

 

The right move doesn't always mean the media will understand that. They know the term "White Flag" gets idiots to call into talk shows and buy Sun Times. Plenty of fans will falls for it.

The right move doesn't always mean the media will understand that. They know the term "White Flag" gets idiots to call into talk shows and buy Sun Times. Plenty of fans will falls for it.

When we're already sitting 10 games below .500, it ain't gonna matter what they say. At least if they're saying that, they're talking about the Sox and maybe occasionally talking about the player that comes back. If the Sox just keep losing, they'll be talking about the Bears and the Cubs.

 

Like it or not, thanks to the crappy play of this team, we're on the path to that 70 or below win season. We're going to have the damage done that we'd incur from rebuilding anyway. May as well get some players out of it.