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Jesse Crain was unable to come into Tuesday's game against the Orioles due to tightness in his pitching shoulder.

 

Crain felt the tightness while warming up in the bullpen. It's not clear at this point how long he might be sidelined, but it's obviously poor timing for one of the White Sox' most tradeable assets. Crain has been one of the best relievers in baseball this season, boasting a 0.74 ERA, 1.15 WHIP and 46/11 K/BB ratio over 36 2/3 innings.

 

Chuck Garfien, twitter

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 09:33 AM)
It was posted in here

 

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...15&start=15

 

you commented on it a half hour ago

 

 

YES, I GET THAT.

 

But we don't have a Crain specific thread in terms of his possible injury, and he's kind the most important asset on our team right now, in case you hadn't heard.

 

That twitter update came LAST night, that's why I was wondering if anyone had heard anything TODAY, especially those living in Chicago.

 

Like an MRI, just precautionary, whatever the case happens to be....starting to think whenever something like this happens he's going to be lost for the season with how things went with Floyd and Peavy.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 11:03 AM)
Don't worry caufield...I too am interested. I want to know if it is anything serious as he is probably our biggest asset.

 

He's gone from 193 pitches (April), to 236 to 240 in June. 669 total this season.

 

The biggest concern is a whopping 186 pitches in 20 days between the 9th and 29th of June. That's a lot, at max effort.

 

 

In comparison, Addison has 171, 183 and 228. 582 pitches for Reed.

 

Mark Melancon, the MLB hold leader (23) for the Pirates, has 570 pitches so far this season. Crain is 3rd, with 20. Matt Thornton's also in the Top 10 with 17.

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QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 12:14 PM)
I thought Chris Sale was the biggest asset on this team...

 

 

Of the ones they're like to trade (any Sale trade would happen in an offseason), although you can make strong arguments for Rios, Ramirez and perhaps DeAza over Crain.

 

But Crain's reasonable salary and expiring contract make him ideal, too.

 

Nevertheless, if Peavy's able to make 2-3 starts and can throw at normal velocity, he automatically jumps to the top of pack.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 04:00 PM)
And the hits just keep on coming....

 

Some of this will be blamed on Ventura for overusing Crain, some on Hahn for not trading him at his peak value a week or so ago.

 

LOL.

 

Ok. He did lose any value one week ago to today before the injury. And if he wasn't hurt he would not have lost any more value at the end of July.

 

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 02:25 PM)
LOL.

 

Ok. He did lose any value one week ago to today before the injury. And if he wasn't hurt he would not have lost any more value at the end of July.

 

At the height of his scoreless appearances streak (he's been scored on twice since then, although the first one was attributable to shoddy defense by Alexei)...and now there's no way he's going to be named to the AL All-Star team.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 04:39 PM)
At the height of his scoreless appearances streak (he's been scored on twice since then, although the first one was attributable to shoddy defense by Alexei)...and now there's no way he's going to be named to the AL All-Star team.

 

And?

 

No team would have deemed him less valuable due to allowing an unearned run in an inning with 2 errors and because he allowed 1 earned run a week later for the first time since April. Also, his value to other teams is completely irrelevant to whether or not he makes the AS team.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 03:00 PM)
And the hits just keep on coming....

 

Some of this will be blamed on Ventura for overusing Crain, some on Hahn for not trading him at his peak value a week or so ago.

 

What was being offered for Crain a week ago?

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 02:06 PM)
What was being offered for Crain a week ago?

Dodgers had been very interested. Sox would have gotten a legitimate prospect and another good prospect for Crain. Now...might only be a legitimate prospect. It all depends on when he comes back, the severity, and how he looks when he is back though. If he gets back right after the break and looks good, might not impact things.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 02:55 PM)
And?

 

No team would have deemed him less valuable due to allowing an unearned run in an inning with 2 errors and because he allowed 1 earned run a week later for the first time since April. Also, his value to other teams is completely irrelevant to whether or not he makes the AS team.

 

 

To GM's, yes.

 

Psychologically, to a fanbase, I disagree...perception, again.

 

Let's say you are the GM and you added an All-Star reliever (like Thornton the year he made it), it's even harder to blame the GM for that (possibly backfiring) move when you acquired a pitcher acknowledged by managers/coaches/fellow players to be among the very best that particular season.

 

 

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