December 8, 201411 yr Darren Viola @RRepoz 42m42 minutes ago Lynn Henning: "I was told by BBWAA officials this year that the Hall of Fame bosses want ballots to be private." http://tinyurl.com/n583qx5
December 8, 201411 yr They should all be revealed. Got a reason to be ashamed of your votes? Revealed after balloting is final? Sure. Revealed before then? No, can have too much influence over other voters.
December 18, 201411 yr The Gizmo is back. http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsst...ll%20of%20Fame/
December 22, 201411 yr http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsst...ollecting_gizmo 47 votes in. Pedro, Unit, and Smoltz are locks, and it's looking good for Biggio and Piazza.
December 22, 201411 yr Author QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2014 -> 10:18 AM) http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsst...ollecting_gizmo 47 votes in. Pedro, Unit, and Smoltz are locks, and it's looking good for Biggio and Piazza. I really would like to see Raines get it, but it isn't looking good.
December 22, 201411 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 22, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) I really would like to see Raines get it, but it isn't looking good. Raines should be in. He was definitely under appreciated from Age 28-35. 81-87, he was a superstar, but missed key time because of a strike and collusion in 1987. 88-95, he probably wasn't a star player, but his OBP was still .375. Career .385 OBP, all time SB percentage leader...yeah, I don't get it. Probably a combination of the cocaine thing, not being a star in his post-Expos years, undervaluing walks, and being a bench player for a 6-7 years have kept him out. There's a lot of bad perception here.
December 22, 201411 yr Raines should be in. He was definitely under appreciated from Age 28-35. 81-87, he was a superstar, but missed key time because of a strike and collusion in 1987. 88-95, he probably wasn't a star player, but his OBP was still .375. Career .385 OBP, all time SB percentage leader...yeah, I don't get it. Probably a combination of the cocaine thing, not being a star in his post-Expos years, undervaluing walks, and being a bench player for a 6-7 years have kept him out. There's a lot of bad perception here. 16% of voters didn't vote for Frank Thomas. You just can't use logic with a group like that.
December 26, 201411 yr Author http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsst...ollecting_gizmo The 2015 HOF Ballot Collecting Gizmo! Updated 9:00 ~ 79 Full Ballots ~ (13.8% of vote ~ based on last year) ~ As usual…BBWAA ballot digging is welcome! 98.7 - P. Martinez 98.7 - R. Johnson 87.3 - Smoltz 82.3 - Biggio 79.7 - Piazza ———————————— 73.4 - Bagwell 64.6 - Raines 58.2 - Schilling 44.3 - Bonds 43.0 - Clemens 43.0 - Mussina 29.1 - E. Martinez 22.8 - Trammell 17.7 - McGriff 15.2 - Lee Smith 13.9 - Kent 7.6 - L. Walker 6.3 - Sheffield 6.3 - McGwire 5.1 - Sosa ————————————- 1.3 - Garciaparra 1.3 - Mattingly 1.3 - Pete Rose (McWrite-In)
December 26, 201411 yr How is it Piazza doesn't get caught into the steroid backlash? His back was loaded with zits.
December 26, 201411 yr Author QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 12:56 PM) How is it Piazza doesn't get caught into the steroid backlash? His back was loaded with zits. I don't get how Sosa does, and Piazza doesn't. Both have as much evidence of steroid use as the other.
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) How is it Piazza doesn't get caught into the steroid backlash? His back was loaded with zits. Facetious?
December 26, 201411 yr Smoltz being so far ahead of Mussina and Schilling is a head-scratcher. Writers just must really like the idea of putting all three of the Braves' Cy winners in.
December 26, 201411 yr QUOTE (OsweGo-Go Sox @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) Facetious? No. There was an article about Piazza and steroids several years ago. It was mentioned his back had a ton of zits, one common side effect. He is obviously considered a steroid user by some, or there is no way he's not a first ballot HOFer as a catcher, and I think this is his 3rd year of eligibilty, and he looks to be barely above the cutoff. Edited December 26, 201411 yr by Dick Allen
December 26, 201411 yr If Mike Piazza is in the Hall of Fame and Barry Bonds isn't, it pretty much takes away any credibility the HOF had left.
December 27, 201411 yr They should be able to keep their ballots private if they want to. You're supposed to make the right vote, not the popular one. If backlash will have a chilling effect, then you can't make them public.
December 27, 201411 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 26, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) They should be able to keep their ballots private if they want to. You're supposed to make the right vote, not the popular one. If backlash will have a chilling effect, then you can't make them public. If you're not willing to stand behind your vote then I don't believe you think it's the "right" one.
December 27, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2014 -> 09:54 AM) If you're not willing to stand behind your vote then I don't believe you think it's the "right" one. Or the truly right vote isn't the popular vote. Why piss off your readers to do the right thing? Secret ballots are how we decide most elections. I would rather they vote and not be able to use it as a marketing piece for their careers.
December 27, 201411 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 27, 2014 -> 12:16 PM) Or the truly right vote isn't the popular vote. Why piss off your readers to do the right thing? Secret ballots are how we decide most elections. I would rather they vote and not be able to use it as a marketing piece for their careers. Give me an example. If you think tetrahydrogestrinone belongs in the hall of fame, or you think Greg Maddux does not belong there, tell me why.
December 28, 201411 yr You have to realize that in some cases, these guys might even be impacting their job security. They've been chosen as fit to make these judgments and don't have to justify anything to random people like us. If they do want to make justifications, great.
December 28, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) Give me an example. If you think tetrahydrogestrinone belongs in the hall of fame, or you think Greg Maddux does not belong there, tell me why. You are a writer covering the Cubs in Chicago and think Sosa should not be in the HoF. The Cubs management believes it will sell tickets, etc etc. You will not be welcome around their clubhouse if your no to Sosa vote is made public.
December 29, 201411 yr 83-year-old BBWAA member, Garry Brown, forgot to vote Smoltz because of a "brain freeze". But did vote for Randy Johnson, who was thought to have been left off his ballot too. Randy Johnson is at 100% through 93 votes. Garry Brown is the epitome of somebody who should no longer vote on this.
December 30, 201411 yr 3 locks. Biggio will probably hang on for a record 4th. Expecting Piazza to fall below. Decent chance McGwire, Sosa, and Sheffield will fall off--which is nice. Updated 12:40 ~ 101 Full Ballots ~ (17.7% of vote ~ based on last year) 99.0 - R. Johnson 98.0 - P. Martinez 89.1 - Smoltz 84.2 - Biggio 78.2 - Piazza ———————————— 72.3 - Bagwell 62.4 - Raines 59.4 - Schilling 42.6 - Mussina 42.6 - Bonds 41.6 - Clemens 28.7 - E. Martinez 22.7 - Trammell 16.8 - McGriff 15.8 - Lee Smith 14.9 - Kent 9.9 - L. Walker 5.9 - McGwire 5.9 - Sheffield 5.9 - Sosa ————————————- 2.0 - Mattingly 1.0 - Garciaparra 1.0 - Delgado 1.0 - Pete Rose (McWrite-In)
January 3, 201511 yr Daily Herald writers... http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2015010...orts/150109652/ Anyone who has room on their ballot for Sammy Sosa or Mark McGwire is an idiot.
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