March 8, 201511 yr Interview with Samardzija... https://soundcloud.com/mlbnetworkradio/jeff...ve-put-together If they announce a contract extension before November, I'll be surprised. I just want 33 starts and 230 innings and hopefully a championship, then what will be will be.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) Interview with Samardzija... https://soundcloud.com/mlbnetworkradio/jeff...ve-put-together If they announce a contract extension before November, I'll be surprised. I just want 33 starts and 230 innings and hopefully a championship, then what will be will be. Even then, the Royals were quickly ready to move on from Shields.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 8, 2015 -> 07:20 PM) Plenty of pitching on the market this offseason; I'm not sweating it. yes, the market will have a slew of great pitchers on the market, but with the sox being sooo close, i rather not waste another 1st rnd pick. unless it really makes sense.
March 9, 201511 yr Oh man, I missed some good ones in here QUOTE (sammy esposito @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) Even if we are in contention at the trade deadline, Shark could be traded for some quality prospects. No QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 21, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) Geez, I hope it doesn't come down to that -- trading Shark for prospects next June. If that happens, I'm certain the prospects offered will not be as good as Bassitt, Ravelo, and Semien. LOL what? I really like the prospects the Sox gave up but they have ceilings of average players. Frankly, the Sox could easily get more for Samardzija at the deadline, but they won't be dealing him unless it's an absolutely terrible, terrible season.
March 9, 201511 yr Marcus Semien hit 20 HR with 20 SB and a .400+ OBP in the high minors as a MIF. He does not have a ceiling of "average." He might be likely to become an average player, but I constantly see people refer to players having ceilings that are really more like "realistic output if things go reasonably well"
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) Marcus Semien hit 20 HR with 20 SB and a .400+ OBP in the high minors as a MIF. He does not have a ceiling of "average." He might be likely to become an average player, but I constantly see people refer to players having ceilings that are really more like "realistic output if things go reasonably well" I agree. Now that he is gone, Semien's likely outcome is being confused with his ceiling, possibly as a way to lessen the feeling of loss with him being traded. I am a big Semien fan — good plate discipline, some speed, some power, decent glove. I get that he doesn't have as "loud" of tools or as high of a ceiling as a guy like Tim Anderson, but ceiling isn't everything. I know this may be a minority opinion, but I think when it's all said and done, Seimen will have a better major league career than Anderson.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) I agree. Now that he is gone, Semien's likely outcome is being confused with his ceiling, possibly as a way to lessen the feeling of loss with him being traded. I am a big Semien fan — good plate discipline, some speed, some power, decent glove. I get that he doesn't have as "loud" of tools or as high of a ceiling as a guy like Tim Anderson, but ceiling isn't everything. I know this may be a minority opinion, but I think when it's all said and done, Seimen will have a better major league career than Anderson. kind of a bold statement, but while i like your opinion, i don't see it. i think anderson bat maybe ready to make a run for the majors this, but it is field position that is still in question and developing still. i like anderson bat, and don't get me wrong, i really like semien. only time will tell.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) [/b] kind of a bold statement, but while i like your opinion, i don't see it. i think anderson bat maybe ready to make a run for the majors this, but it is field position that is still in question and developing still. i like anderson bat, and don't get me wrong, i really like semien. only time will tell. I hope Anderson turns into an All-Star, and I could see it happening. But I think it's more likely that Semien turns into a league-average infielder than Anderson does. To me, Anderson, highly-rated and toolsy as he is, has a lot more to prove. He has to -hit at the upper minors -learn plate discipline -improve significantly in the field (and/or move to the OF, where the bar will be ever higher for offense) -adjust to the majors That's a lot to do. He has a lot of time to do it, but statistically the chances of him overcoming all these things seem less likely than the one step Semien has: adjusting to the majors. I believe that Anderson has a higher ceiling, but again that is not the only factor at play here.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 03:31 PM) I hope Anderson turns into an All-Star, and I could see it happening. But I think it's more likely that Semien turns into a league-average infielder than Anderson does. To me, Anderson, highly-rated and toolsy as he is, has a lot more to prove. He has to -hit at the upper minors -learn plate discipline -improve significantly in the field (and/or move to the OF, where the bar will be ever higher for offense) -adjust to the majors That's a lot to do. He has a lot of time to do it, but statistically the chances of him overcoming all these things seem less likely than the one step Semien has: adjusting to the majors. I believe that Anderson has a higher ceiling, but again that is not the only factor at play here. and while i agree with what you are saying, how can you arbitrarily write him off, by saying someone will preform better. he needs to prove himself and develop.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) and while i agree with what you are saying, how can you arbitrarily write him off, by saying someone will preform better. he needs to prove himself and develop. I think "arbitrarily write him off" is an extremely poor summation of his argument.
March 9, 201511 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) I think "arbitrarily write him off" is an extremely poor summation of his argument. ok, i will bite, but pls let me state that this was not an argument but for me a discussion in philosophy and how baseball org may see things. now, my main point is, how can one judge players / prospects when one is still in the minors and have yet to reach their potential? yet comparing him to a player today and stating that he will not reach the same level of talent. that can be construe as an arbitrarily statement. then again, i failed english many times in school or else i would have several college degrees. Edited March 10, 201511 yr by LDF
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