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The Great "Team Chemistry" debate, we know what Hawk believe

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"When you win," McClendon said, grinning, "you have great chemistry. I played on teams that had players that didn't get along well at all, but they won.

 

/thread

This always seems to be made more complicated than it is.

 

Do personalities matter in a clubhouse? Of course, they are human beings. Can "chemistry" effect a team? Also, of course.

 

Can it be measured or predicted? Absoutely not.

 

:huh

 

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 10:26 AM)
/thread

 

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 10:29 AM)
This always seems to be made more complicated than it is.

 

Do personalities matter in a clubhouse? Of course, they are human beings. Can "chemistry" effect a team? Also, of course.

 

Can it be measured or predicted? Absoutely not.

 

:huh

 

I think these two posts, combined, are it. Chemistry will be a scapegoat if the team sucks, no matter what the real issue is. It'll be lauded as a hero if the team succeeds, no matter what the real cause is. But it's a chicken & egg issue. Everyone's happy winning and they make friends with one another; everyone's upset losing, and they'll irritate each other.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 04:29 PM)
This always seems to be made more complicated than it is.

 

Do personalities matter in a clubhouse? Of course, they are human beings. Can "chemistry" effect a team? Also, of course.

 

Can it be measured or predicted? Absoutely not.

 

:huh

 

a great post, look at the team of the yanks all the way back to the babe ruth, lou gehrig feud. babe ruth and manager mccarthy fued.

 

yet they won, inspite of the feud.

 

 

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 04:32 PM)
I think these two posts, combined, are it. Chemistry will be a scapegoat if the team sucks, no matter what the real issue is. It'll be lauded as a hero if the team succeeds, no matter what the real cause is. But it's a chicken & egg issue. Everyone's happy winning and they make friends with one another; everyone's upset losing, and they'll irritate each other.

 

another way to think about it.

yeah, poster who summed it up saying it's likely a factor but one that's impossible to predict. The great As teams use to have fist fights in the clubhouse.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 10:26 AM)
/thread

Yea I've had Don Cooper's quote at the top of any sig I had for years. It sums it up perfectly.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 10:29 AM)
This always seems to be made more complicated than it is.

 

Do personalities matter in a clubhouse? Of course, they are human beings. Can "chemistry" effect a team? Also, of course.

 

Can it be measured or predicted? Absoutely not.

 

:huh

 

We should just pin this and direct any threads on chemistry to this quote.

 

I believe a more subtle thing may be how free agents view coming to the Sox. No body wants to pick a crappy place to work.

Anyone whose fandom stretches back to the 70's should have the proper perspective on this topic. The dynasties of that decade - The Finley A's, Big Red Machine and Reggie's Yankees were all filled with players that couldn't stand one another.

 

It's been described succinctly above - "winning creates good chemistry, losing creates bad chemistry"

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 15, 2015 -> 09:24 AM)
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballn...ic-big-12-title

 

Or you can copy and paste the back end of this article about how Hoiberg runs the Cyclone program.

Lovie was always ripped fot "not having the fire". The White Sox lose, Robin "doesn't have a pulse". Iowa State wins after being down big, Hoiberg not flying off the handle being down 15, or using timeouts, is genius.mthe team chemistry moves the same way. Win, everything was great. Same locker room and lose, there were problems, somewhere.

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