Deal with Connor at 3rd base...

 

Sanchez just can't hit enough to take a spot at 2nd.

With as few runs as the offense is scoring right now, the defense is more important.

Sanchez is the least of this team's worry. The top 4 are not playing at career norms.

Our D up the middle would still be good...

 

We need to find ways to score runs... no amount of defense can save this team if it can't score.

 

 

Hawk likes to talk about if we didn't give this run away or that run away.. true some of that is true.

 

However the mental effect that not hitting and scoring has on your team is tough to overcome.. especially with so many young players.

 

Honestly its not going to happen - our defense will not/cannot overcome our offensive issues.

Edited May 30, 201510 yr by harkness

Our D up the middle would still be good...

 

We need to find ways to score runs... no amount of defense can save this team if it can't score.

 

 

Hawk likes to talk about if we didn't give this run away or that run away.. true some of that is true.

 

However the mental effect that not hitting and scoring has on your team is tough to overcome.. especially with so many young players.

 

Honestly its not going to happen.

 

Defense up the middle is fine either way. 3rd base becomes a hole and Conors bat isn't good enough to make up for it.

 

Yes, I start Gordo at third for his glove alone.

Perhaps but if Sanchez doesn't start hitting soon he will be DFA...

 

It's also about not destroying his confidence.

So the White Sox didn't score vs.a pitcher with an ERA under 2.00, without Abreu in the line up, and more panic sets in. Now scoring zero is Sanchez's fault. LMAO

Edited May 30, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

Perhaps but if Sanchez doesn't start hitting soon he will be DFA...

 

It's also about not destroying his confidence.

He won't be DFA'd.

So the White Sox didn't score vs.a pitcher with an ERA under 2.00, without Abreu in the line up, and more panic sets in. Now scoring zero is Sanchez's fault. LMAO

 

 

Yeah sending Sanchez back to AAA would be "panic"? Or playing guys at positions they have always played..

 

 

Weird definition of panic there Dick.

 

 

Nor did I say it was Sanchez fault... it's just another hole in a bad lineup and even more it I worry about his confidence.

 

 

Edited May 31, 201510 yr by harkness

Yeah sending Sanchez back to AAA would be "panic"? Or playing guys at positions they have always played..

 

 

Weird definition of panic there Dick.

You said he would be DFA'd. Do you even know what that is? If Gillaspie played 3B today and Beckham 2B, the odds are overwhelmimg they still wouldn't have scored.

Edited May 31, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

You said he would be DFA'd. Do you even know what that is? If Gillaspie played 3B today and Beckham 2B, the odds are overwhelmimg they still wouldn't have scored.

 

Sent back to the minors where he has been for most of his career... including the beginning of this season....

 

You can also quit saying crap that I didn't say like its all his fault or he is the reason. Nor am I talking about just this game - I made no reference to the game today at all.

 

That's a pretty big jump to conclusion Dick.

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Defense up the middle is fine either way. 3rd base becomes a hole and Conors bat isn't good enough to make up for it.

 

Yes, I start Gordo at third for his glove alone.

 

they are times a club may need to necessitate a change in the team whether that is to send a msg or to jump start it.

 

either way, that move is necessary at this time. i do hate the fact of 2 weaker bats in lineup, but the coach needs to keep the score close for the hitters.

Yeah sending Sanchez back to AAA would be "panic"? Or playing guys at positions they have always played..

 

 

Weird definition of panic there Dick.

 

 

Nor did I say it was Sanchez fault... it's just another hole in a bad lineup and even more it I worry about his confidence.

 

i really hate to say this again, i said it last week.

 

loosing really magnifies every little stupid mistakes.

Sent back to the minors where he has been for most of his career... including the beginning of this season....

 

You can also quit saying crap that I didn't say like its all his fault or he is the reason.

 

That's a pretty big jump to conclusion Dick.

That is not what a DFA is, and Sanchez wouldn't be DFA'd because he has options left and doesn't have to go through waivers. If the White sox won 4-3 or 2-1 today, this thread doesn't exist. It was a tough match up for the Sox today, especially without Abreu.

So the White Sox didn't score vs.a pitcher with an ERA under 2.00, without Abreu in the line up, and more panic sets in. Now scoring zero is Sanchez's fault. LMAO

You seem to have a habit of putting words in people's mouths. He didn't say scoring no runs was Sanchez's fault. He simply suggested replacing the guy with a wRC+ of 14 with the guy with a wRC+ of 111.

You seem to have a habit of putting words in people's mouths. He didn't say scoring no runs was Sanchez's fault. He simply suggested replacing the guy with a wRC+ of 14 with the guy with a wRC+ of 111.

 

you have a point, but why not mention Eaton, Flowers, Soto....

That is not what a DFA is, and Sanchez wouldn't be DFA'd because he has options left and doesn't have to go through waivers. If the White sox won 4-3 or 2-1 today, this thread doesn't exist. It was a tough match up for the Sox today, especially without Abreu.

 

 

This thread has existed for weeks.

 

Also still not sure what you are arguing about because part of DFA is sent to the minors... its one of 4 different options the team has.

You seem to have a habit of putting words in people's mouths. He didn't say scoring no runs was Sanchez's fault. He simply suggested replacing the guy with a wRC+ of 14 with the guy with a wRC+ of 111.

LMAO. No one likes Gordon Beckham here more than me, but it isn't about what your wRC+ is right now. It is about what it will be tomorrow and in the future. If Gordon Beckham was going to continue to put up those numbers playing every day at 2b, and Sanchez was goimg to hit .170 the rest of his life, it would make sense. But that is most likely not the case.

you have a point, but why not mention Eaton, Flowers, Soto....

Just because there's several problems doesn't mean you don't move to fix any problems. Those you list are not doing as horrendously as Sanchez, and have no real alternatives, though I've been a long-term advocate of replacing Flowers.

This thread has existed for weeks.

 

Also still not sure what you are arguing about because part of DFA is sent to the minors... its one of 4 different options the team has.

Again, if you have options remaining..........nm. And this thread was started by you today.

Edited May 31, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

LMAO. No one likes Gordon Beckham here more than me, but it isn't about what your wRC+ is right now. It is about what it will be tomorrow and in the future. If Gordon Beckham was going to continue to put up those numbers playing every day at 2b, and Sanchez was goimg to hit .170 the rest of his life, it would make sense. But that is most likely not the case.

Of course. But Beckham's absolute floor in the majors is higher than anything Sanchez has produced. His projections are comfortably better.

Just because there's several problems doesn't mean you don't move to fix any problems. Those you list are not doing as horrendously as Sanchez, and have no real alternatives, though I've been a long-term advocate of replacing Flowers.

 

you have a point, but mine is, lets not bicker on something that may not even be the problem. the priority of different players comes in account on those i mention. it is a domino effect of a lousy beginning of a season.

Again, if you have options remaining..........nm. And this thread was started by you today.

 

I have read other threads thinking Sanchez isn't ready because of his hitting... this is far from the first time this has been brought up.

 

If you are really considering the kids future - I'm not sure allowing him to continue to bat .150 for the next few weeks is good for his future.

I have read other threads thinking Sanchez isn't ready because of his hitting... this is far from the first time this has been brought up.

 

If you are really considering the kids future - I'm not sure allowing him to continue to bat .150 for the next few weeks is good for his future.

 

you may very well be right, but on a snarky come back, i would say who's fault was it to rush 2 players to play 2nd????

you may very well be right, but on a snarky come back, i would say who's fault was it to rush 2 players to play 2nd????

 

I'm not sure that might idea of Beckham at 2nd is the best... at least could try it for a few games with Sanchez on the bench.

 

What is there to lose?

Edited May 31, 201510 yr by harkness